Hamas Attacks, Israel Responds II

Yet they got the same treatment by the bibi clan for reporting things bibi scum suis don't like.
So it's fair to say it has shit to do with AJ being funded by Qatar, unless AP has secret ties with Qatar too.

 

Again
Yet they got the same treatment by the bibi clan for reporting things bibi scum suis don't like.
So it's fair to say it has shit to do with AJ being funded by Qatar, unless AP has secret ties with Qatar too.

 

Can't we all agree that the way Bibi has handled the media hasn't been..shall we say ..geared toward freedom of press?

Is that a gentle enough rebuke.

 

Keep on distracting, even lying:

1. https://www.reuters.com › world › middle-east › israel-confiscates-ap-camera-equipment-over-live-feed-al-jazeera-2024-05-21
   Israel backs down over confiscation of AP camera equipment
   4 dagen geledenThe Israeli authorities confiscated camera equipment belonging to the Associated Press on Tuesday, before reversing course in the face of widespread condemnation from media groups and criticism ...

Still waiting for the real issue to be provided...did AJ as you insinuated with mentioning Qatar as hosts/financers of hama engage in those things or have they, like AP, simply been silenced for reporting about the atrocities.

 

No, the three of them are sidetracking towards AJ being silenced for aiding and abetting hama and insulting me for posting the issue 27 countries have with it.
Superdave even got down to the level to suggest me, someone who has lost in the war several Jewish family members in the gas chambers, being in concert with the (Yanks imaginary) betrayers of Anne Frank.

 

A state financed media outlet, when that state isnot democratic always is questionable and should be on close scrutiny.
That close scrutiny hasnot shown something questionable to warrant the action of the bibi clan, underlined by the same treatment delivered towards AP.
If they had done such a thing, there wouldnot be any condemnation about the measures taken.

 

Qatar are major allies of the USA.

They hosted Hamas at the personal request of Barack Obama in 2011. Obama wanted a way to have a channel to Hamas instead of having Hamas base themselves in Syria or Iran.
https://www.spiegel.de/internationa...s-host-a-39579533-e4a2-400a-a78e-9a8836606ccc

Qatar were vital in the first exchange of prisoners last year which would not have happened if they didn’t have that channel to Hamas.

If the israelis want to ban people that fund Hamas maybe they should exile Netanyahu instead of kicking out journalists.

 

Dude, what are you doing?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...cj-rafah-hamas-benjamin-netanyahu-middle-east
Israel-Gaza war live: Fresh protests in Tel Aviv and across Israel as thousands demand end to war and return of hostages
Demonstrations stretch into evening, and include calling for resignation of Benjamin Netanyahu and an early election

 

What does that have to do with the AJ muzzling?

 

We'll have to wait and see how things develop.
Personally I dont put that much stock into AJ ban in Israel at this particular moment. Its been previously banned in other MENA countries including places like Egypt and Gulf states, as it is closely affiliated (or have been perceived to be closely affiliated) with the Muslim Brotherhood, and by extension Hamas. I dont necessarily agree with it but whatever.

It COULD represent a dangerous precedent, and if News papers like Haaretz faces threats of getting shut down on account of "leftistism" or being perceived as "enemy of of the state" propaganda, thats when we'll know things are truly in a downwards spiral in Israel as far as freedom of the press is concerned, and Israel should be compared to its neighbors in that regard if such an occurrence takes place.

 

I respect the fact that this conflict actually affects your country, Iran, yet you’re still able to discuss stuff like AJ being banned in Israel in a reasonable, fact based manner.

I find it extremely, um, dubious that some guy in Europe is incapable of that.

 

WHAT HAMAS CALLED ITS FEMALE CAPTIVES, AND WHY IT MATTERS

— The Atlantic

 

You posted a photo of Trump's most recent rally in Brooklyn!

 

Much of what is presented by the MSM is carefully orchestrated theater by the sources behind many of the headlines, namely the Israeli government and its supporters in America.

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence, looking at the actual facts regarding the war, would have immediately realized that Israel, besides utilizing massive aerial and ground vandalism to reclaim the deterrence it felt was shattered on Oct 7, was focused on defeating Hamas through siege warfare, without seriously even attempting to either capture or hold ground throughout much of Gaza. The Israeli tactics basically called for dividing Gaza in initially 2 and subsequently 3 sectors and seal each of them by controlling the exit and entrance points to prevent delivery of food, water and other needed supplies. And then to wait out (hence the "long war" comments by Netanyahu et al early in the war) until famine would eventually cause a rift between the people and Hamas until the latter was forced to surrender.

The arguments with the pro Israeli propaganda brigade here is particularly misplaced because many of them have no problem endorsing this tactic. Or even more overt acts of genocide. Indeed, many of the right wing extremists in Israel are pushing for such, more overt, acts of genocide while their supporters in America (e.g. Lindsey Graham) want Israel to have carte blanche doing so.

The main focus of those who genuinely don't want to be complicit in genocide is to focus on making sure sufficient deliveries of food, water, and medicine get through in Gaza. If sufficient supplies do get through, short of nuking Gaza, Israel will never win this war. And would be begging for an end to it. If not, if Israel's siege tactics are allowed, the genocide in Gaza will cost the lives of not just those who have died so far, but eventually much of its population.

 

Thanks.
I try to be as objective, fair and not emotional as can be when making arguments.
Im not really emotionally or ideologically commited to this conflict.
I think what is happening is horrible, which goes without saying. But I truly think both people are victims of what is essentially an ethnic conflict, albeit in a different scale and manner.

As for Iran, I wish it would divorce itself from the Palestinian issue altogether given the cluster******** that it is. Iran cant solve the problem, and internationally or at least in the Western world Iran is seen as being driven by an ideological cause rather than being a nation state driven by material interests.
Strategically I can somewhat understand it. Israel is a strategic rival/competitor, and Iran supporting Palestinians give it a legitimacy among the "Arab street" in a region where Palestinians are otherwise seen as an inconvenient nuisance (for the governments)
But on a purely ideological level, Iran and Israel are really the most unnatural of enemies.

 

That’s not true though, is it?

Kan 11 and Makan 33 are state owned channels (state owned by israel). There are other media also owned by the israeli state.

 

Being silenced? FFS!!
Here lies to rub. Some of you are so concerned with carrying water for SanDisk that you take highly illogical positions.

You with this, Mr "I need 4k footage of rape" and Mr "20 years in IT can't recognize a server site" to name a few

Sometimes you just need to do basic logic to reach conclusions. But noooo baking some pretzels is prefered

It is hard you know... to see conservative types being right. Some of you are as illogical as they say you are.