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  1. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Then perhaps they should go collect a paycheck someplace else
     
  2. soccerncbus

    soccerncbus Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 29, 2018
    All I was saying was it’s an annoyance before the game. I’m sure they are just fine putting up with to collect their paycheck here.
     
  3. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I assume they get used to it, but I always wondered if it was weird for American hockey players playing for Canadian teams, or vice versa, hearing a national anthem before the game and it's not theirs.
     
  4. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The inevitable “like it or leave it” comment, thus signifying the upcoming shitshow that this thread will become lol.
     
  5. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 14, 2018
    I believe the NBA and maybe sometimes the NFL will do the anthems while the team is in the locker room.

    For the CCC and Leagues Cup they do it when the teams are in the locker room. And Liga MX requested not to have the Mexican anthem played.
     
  6. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or being European and having to listen to the American and Canadian anthems.

    Of course, the irony is that if (I don’t know if this is the case or not, but let’s pretend) Russia played their anthem before every single game, they’d be nationalistic fascists. We do it, we’re patriotic red blooded Americans. Ah, perspective.
     
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  7. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Really? If the players were in the locker rooms during the anthem, why was there so much hullaballoo over kneeling during it?
     
  8. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh god. Here we go…

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Pretty sure the playing while in the locker room developed in response to the kneeling.
     
  10. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I get that, but I still feel like I've heard more about it since then.
     
  11. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's nothing of the sort. Retract your leftism.

    Foreign players on an American team aren't immigrants. They're employees hired for a job. Presumably they have other options.

    You remind me of the steel mill I used to work with where some women sued to get jobs in plant maintenance. When they won, they showed up and were appalled that pipefitters and millwrights and such had obscene pictures in their lockers and used rather, shall we say, coarse language. So they sued again to make it all get cleaned up.

    They wanted in, OK fine. Then they don't get to bitch about it. It's not like my oldest son's fiance, who I bought dinner and nice tickets to a game and then refused to stand for the national anthem knowing full well that it would piss me off. I was personally offended, but she is an American, born and raised, and has every right to behave boorishly if that's her choice.
     
  12. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Down, boy.

    The first post on this tangent mentioned that foreign-born players might find it "annoying." As a result of it not being a normal thing for them. I don't see any mention of such players actually complaining about it.
     
  13. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don’t understand your point, besides going off of the deep end of what has been, up to this point, a rather civilized thread.
     
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  14. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    I don't think that's quite the deep end yet.
     
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  15. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh heavens no. Waist deep at best.
     
  16. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
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    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    …said the man who said this…
     
  17. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So… I called it?
     
  18. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Some years ago I went to the opera in Cincinnati at Music Hall and was surprised when instead of the overture, the orchestra launched into the Star Spangled Banner. Apparently it's their tradition on opening night of the opera season. Anyway, the audience belted it out and technically we all sang at the opera!
     
  19. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
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    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don’t think you can call something if you aided it into existence.
     
  20. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don’t see how pointing out that the use of the anthem can be viewed in multiple ways is controversial.

    I also don’t see how when someone says “if you don’t like where you live and work then leave” as a “like it or leave it” comment is controversial either.

    Furthermore, I don’t see how bringing up the possibility that the single most divisive issue in America the last five years (outside trump, covid, and abortion) in the Kapernick kneeling debacle, is in anyway helpful, which is what my facepalm gif was referencing .
     
  21. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
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    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It isn’t whether or not something is controversial. My point was that you mention how this thread will inevitably become a sh!tshow, then you contribute to said sh!tshow.
     
  22. bradd

    bradd Member

    Jun 11, 2008
    Detroit, MI
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like that I stirred the pot. You're welcome Columbus.
     
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  23. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Schmuck. :D
     
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