Spaghetti Weston: McKennie at Juventus

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  1. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
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    Oct 16, 2017
    2 weeks until the first friendly ;)
     
  2. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    Corriere dello Sport say there's no update on Rabiot and McKennie's negotiations, but that Alcaraz is likely to return to Southampton due to their promotion.
     
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  3. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
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    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    and Charly Alcaraz wasn't particularly good either...or that his redemption cost was like $40m! hahah

    What a weird loan.
     
  4. ChicagoVT

    ChicagoVT Member

    United States
    Jun 26, 2019
    Not sure I understand why Alcaraz was playing other than what was previously mentioned, that his loan contract may have had some minimum minutes amount.... No way he deserved minutes on form. He was terrible.
     
  5. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    TuttoJuve claim that if Mckennie and Juve can't come to an agreement, Juve will be looking for €20m - €25m and that Aston Villa, Everton, and Newcastle are the most interested PL clubs tracking him in him.

    The other papers mention that Mckennie isn't backing down from his salary demands, and Juve aren't backing down from their desire to reel-in wages.

    Most importantly, Gazzetta notes that Frattesi's OTHER sister (not the model one Wes was maybe dating) posted some cryptic IG story then quickly deleted it and unfollowed Weston... now the model sister is on vacation alone and so the paper speculates that it's OVER between her and Weston (no, they do not note that Wes has NT duty...)
     
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  6. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    I am not keen on seeing McKennie move to the EPL.

    I think the more languid pace of Serie A suits him well.

    The EPL is too frenetic for him.
     
  7. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    I concur. Honestly Juventus just needs to pony up for him and get him to sign for several more years. If Weston leaves, it needs to be to La Liga not the EPL.
     
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  8. Roblar

    Roblar Member

    Sep 15, 2000
    The 73072
    ...I don't know... If the primary defining quality of the EPL were 'frenetic,' we'd all think Aaronson had the highest possible ceiling there... probably followed closely by McKennie, right? Maybe I'm just selectively remembering his game from long ago, but... 'frenetic' might have been one of McKennie's qualities.

    That said, I think I agree with you both - I like that Italy has forced him to learn to play the slow game (more tactically?). I think it will help him with whatever team he ends up at next. I wouldn't mind seeing him in the EPL again either. Easy to watch, and I also think his game could fit there (especially with a team that is a bit better than Leeds).

    ...maybe I'm just prone to being fooled twice, but I don't believe he got a fair shake in the EPL last time.
     
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  9. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
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    Oct 16, 2017
    I just don't think Weston was really *that* bad at Leeds. He wasn't good, but then again, no one on that Leeds side was good after Tyler got injured.

    Leeds fans did a bang-up job pushing the narrative that Weston was "historically bad" and the media didn't bother pushing back. On the one hand, I get it... how do you write an article like "Weston Mckennie was actually average despite Leeds having their 2nd worst season in all history"? But I watched most of Weston's 19 PL appearances at Leeds, and I genuinely thought he was "fine" considering the 10 teammates around him. The rest of the midfield (minus Tyler) had some of their worst seasons to date as well...

    Meanwhile, Leeds fans liked to use stats like this to "prove" that Weston was historically bad, or something:


    If statisticians could be sued for malpractice, this could warrant it... I hope for my sanity's sake that his bio claiming that he works for OPTA is a lie.
     
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  10. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    On the right team, McKennie will suit the EPL fine. Wes does not really play a conventional position and if you buy him and think he's going to be a prototypical British wide midfielder or Libero DCM or some conventional Italian deep-lying playmaker, you'll be disappointed (but it's on you as they have, you invented tape.) But if you want a B2B disruptive player who can unbalance a midfield through physical exertion and a combination of very decent skill-sets, Wes can add a bit of "je ne sais quoi", to quote the Italians, to the game.
     
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  11. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
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    San Jose Frogs
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    United States
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  12. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
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    United States
    Leeds was a disaster.

    Wes is actually pretty well suited for the Prem. I frankly don't know what some of you are watching.

    The situation at Leeds doesn't detract from Wes's profile as a player.
     
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  13. madvillain

    madvillain Member+

    Aug 28, 2011
    Club:
    Brooklyn Knights
    They were a dumpster fire led by in hindsight a painfully naive tactical manager and then a panicked replacement. Weston had little if anything to do with their struggles. It was the technical director, Jesse, and then his replacement, forget his name.
     
  14. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
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    Oct 16, 2017
    lol, which one... Gracia or Big Sam?
     
  15. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Red Card

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Jessie was a bit unlucky; he lost a number of close games where his teams blew easy scoring opportunities. I recall his XG stats would have put Leeds pretty safely out of the relegation zone. But that may be a rosy false memory.
     
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  16. madvillain

    madvillain Member+

    Aug 28, 2011
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    yea they got unlucky perhaps but I also recall some high school level marking at times from their defense. seems I've blotted out of a lot of that shit from my mind as I think I watched 90% of the games before Jesse was fired and quite a few after that.
     
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  17. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Red Card

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
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    yeah, it was chaotic times for sure. still bummed it didn't work out. it was awesome having 3 USMNT starters (at the time) and an american coach on one squad.
     
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  18. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
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    You know that’s French, right?
     
  19. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    McKennie? I did not.
     
  20. Eliezar

    Eliezar Member+

    Jan 27, 2002
    Houston
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    12 de Octubre
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    United States
    They were fine. It was missed penalties, strikers playing thru balls for the other team, crazy goal keeper blunders, and missed clear cut chances. Honestly with Adams healthy and a striker they finish 12-14.

    If they had a Chris wood type striker that is.

    Wes wasn’t good at Leeds at looked slow while he looks quick in Italy. But it’s a massive difference playing with the Juve players vs most of Serie a as opposed to playing with the Leeds players against the premier league.
     
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  21. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
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    FC Dallas
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    Did all three ever play for Marsch or was he fired before McKennie ever played a game? Anyway I think McKennie was working his way back into shape from injury, Marsch was fired when he got there, Adams was injured soon after and McKennie had neither Adams behind him, the coach who wanted him and who he wanted to play for and found himself playing deeper than where he plays best. All in all almost anything bad that could happen did. What a nightmare.
     
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  22. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I mostly agree, but Weston’s occasionally loose touch could end up being a bigger problem in a league where defenders stick a lot closer all over the field than they do in Italy.
     
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  23. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
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    United States
    That’s true, but it’s also true that Marsch’s inflexibility was really extreme. Just speaking for myself, that inflexibility really soured me on him as a USMNT candidate.

    Now, if he hadn’t been so unlucky in XG maybe the team would have retained confidence in his tactics…we can always go further down the hypothetical rabbit hole.
     
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  24. ArsenalMetro

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  25. zlatan_but_a_car

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