UEFA Euro 2024: England Tournament Thread [R]

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Apr 24, 2024.

  1. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I’m sure I heard some boos for him.
     
  2. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    It was obviously the first time in the history of the world that a footballer was booed by the opposing team's fans.
     
  3. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I didn’t hear any of the other subs for either team get any booing.
     
  4. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Going back to Mainoo though, it's very much the age of the player overtaking the performance.

    31 touches in 97 minutes
    84% pass completion
    0 key passes
    0 tackles
    0 interceptions
    1 dribble

    It was his usual anonymous performance punctuated by a goal. Fair play to him but he really shouldn't start for England.
     
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  5. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I think it will be either him or Trent starting. I am not sure it will be Gallagher or Wharton or Jones.
     
  6. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    I'm not sure. Maybe it's United's shit tactical setup but he really has to do a lot more in general play. Gallagher is a very busy player with some quality whilst Wharton is a really good reader of the game with a cultured left foot. Jones shouldn't make the squad. I'd have Mainoo third after Gallagher and Wharton.
     
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  7. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    The very concerning thing from an England perspective is how out of sorts Stones was. It was always the risk of him playing so little this season but its compounded by the rest of the defensive issues. Maguire still out and has been injury hit tall season , Trippier last completed a match in February...

    Really difficult to see us going especially far with the defence as out of sorts as it is in fitness as well as form. I'd hope and expect us to be ruthless with the selections because we can't be using the Euro's to get people who aren't fit up to match fitness. It'll cost us.
     
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  8. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    How many touches did Bruno and Amrabat have just for comparison?
     
  9. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    To me Southgate has spoke so much about Trent in midfield that he must be seriously considering it.
     
  10. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    Walker has always been prone to positional errors and has never had the best spatial awareness but he's been caught out more times this season than I can remember. His pace has often allowed him to recover in the past but now it's slowly starting to wane these errors are popping up more.
     
  11. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    And I suspect if it’s defensive issues that cost us the FA might well panic and choose a defensive minder successor to Southgate.
     
  12. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
  13. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
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  14. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
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  15. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Going by social media they will be a lot of press and fan demands for Mainoo to start.
     
  16. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    Would you still have Gallagher after watching that Brazil game? That was pretty much a full strength lineup and it just looked poor to me.

    I think having Walker and Trippier/Gomez as our full-back pairing with Rice and Gallagher at the base of the midfield has the potential to look turgid in possession. That's four positions that hold a lot of responsibilty in the buildup that would be occupied by players who all have (to varying degrees) limitations in possession. If we include Pickford and Maguire it's 6 actually.
     
  17. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Im not sure about those stats to be honest, I mean he tackled Haaland ( I think ) in the penalty area where I thought it was a penalty but not given, does that not count as a tackle plus not sure if it’s classed as key but saw him make a few good through balls.
     
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  18. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    So what's your point then? Where, why, in what way is it relevant that you heard booing from the stands? Apart from your crusade against Mount, of course.
     
  19. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    What do you expect Mainoo to do though? I think that at least in central midfield positions Gallagher is, at least, a much more known quantity.
     
  20. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    All true but they will be ground swell of pressure for Mainoo to start - and if he doesn’t he might become like Foden in 2022 and Grealish in 2021 in terms of the player the majority want on the pitch.
     
  21. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    Mainoo was infinitely better against Belgium than Gallagher was against Brazil. He's calmer on the ball and more reliable in possession. I rate Gallagher fairly highly overall and he certainly has his value for a lot of sides but I don't really like him in our team. There's too many times I've seen him pass the ball out for a throw in when under pressure against better teams.

    Chelsea are a high pressing team that are loaded with runners up top, we're a possession based team that often builds up slowly and methodically. It makes no sense to me to be a possession based team and have Gallagher partly responsible for running the midfield.

    I'm not desperate for Mainoo to start, I'd be absolutely fine with it being Wharton. I just don't want Gallagher anywhere near it really.
     
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  22. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Southgate won’t care about public opinion, he will go with whatever he thinks best suits the system.
     
  23. Inter Row Z

    Inter Row Z Member+

    Oldham Athletic
    England
    Mar 26, 2023
    Yeah, you get the feeling Southgate will have to make some big calls in defence if he wants to compete at these Euros. I can't see him playing the suicidal high line that City adopted today - not after the failed experiment against Brazil - so I'm not too concerned about Walker and Stones. But this over-reliance on a half fit Maguire and an undercooked and out of form Trippier. That's a big worry.
     
  24. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    We're making a lot of assumptions though to be honest. If you look at previous campaigns, the system at the tournament always changes from the system pre-tournament.
     
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  25. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Step outside the hype and ask yourself what Mainoo is really going to bring to this England midfield?
     

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