AI, as good or evil as human nature allows

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by usscouse, Apr 24, 2023.

  1. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That news presenter is weird... She looks real enough to be a photoshopped model and even blinks her eyes at a normal rate. But she is otherwise motionless and she isn't speaking in sentences like a real person would. It's like an incel's dream woman
     
    feyenoordsoccerfan repped this.
  3. MattR

    MattR Member+

    Jun 14, 2003
    Reston
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's called the "uncanny valley" and that news presenter is pretty much the exemplar.
     
  4. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For those who are unaware, Google rolled out an integrated AI into their search engine. How good is it?

    upload_2024-5-16_12-12-29.png

    :confused:
     
    Dr. Wankler and xtomx repped this.
  5. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Maybe they know something you don’t want to admit?
     
    Dr. Wankler repped this.
  6. Smurfquake

    Smurfquake Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    San Carlos, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I got my first AI result when doing a Google search today. It was unimpressive.

    I was looking up the laws of the game to determine if there are separate rules for the goalie inside or outside the six yard box. (Related to the Portland - San Jose game last night - for example, and this is totally hypothetical, if the San Jose keeper is in the penalty area but not in the six yard box, can the Portland attacker just absolutely crush him on a 50/50 ball as long as he gets a toe on the ball first? And then get a penalty kick from the extremely bad ref? It's a hypothetical but some people were speculating that if the collision took place outside the six yard box, it was a legal challenge, as if the six yard box is some kind of magical wonderland where the keeper is protected but the rest of the field is just open ********ing season on the goalie as long as you touch the ball first.)

    The actual answer per the laws of the game is, no, the six yard box is just for goal kicks, a goal kick has to start inside or on the edge of the six yard box. But one of the AI answers was "opposing players can't set foot in the six yard box". dude wtf bro? There was a feedback button where I could flag that answer as factually incorrect, but I couldn't find the button that said "never give me AI answers again in the future you ******** ******** ******** ******** ******** ********".
     
    roby, spejic, rslfanboy and 2 others repped this.
  7. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yup. I wish there was an opt-out of AI search results.
     
    xtomx repped this.
  8. You could opt out of google search.
     
    Dr. Wankler repped this.
  9. Does AI include tictoc and influencers and conspiracy mongers and evangelist christians proof the world is 6000 years old in it's search on the internet for answers?
     
  10. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Bing was famous for being the first search engine with AI. But it kind of keeps it in its own place, and you can ignore it if you want and I always do. Other search engines are a step down in terms of quality of responses.

    AI searches are far more equipment and energy intensive than regular searching. Doesn't seem wise to switch
     
  11. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    They supposedly weed those things out, but it doesn't seem easy and who knows how successful they are. You can try to find out. I have yet to ask a modern AI a direct question and I don't plan to start anytime soon.
     
  12. Smurfquake

    Smurfquake Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    San Carlos, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was going to say that maybe these AI search results are because the old fashioned way of having a buttload of machines that go out to all the websites, index their contents and sort the results so they come up when people use appropriate search terms, was too expensive, but the new AI system of having even more machines that go out to all the websites, index the contents and then make things up about them, is significantly more expensive.
     
    Mike03 repped this.
  13. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are some things that are beneficial with Google Search. One if them is image searching. That said, I regularly use DuckDuckGo on my desktop, and do so always on my phone.
     
  14. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Google has said that they specifically do integrate social media posts for some searches.
     
  15. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Yes, but I mean they try to weed out the crazy stuff like the flat Earthers. But that's not easy to do.
     
    soccernutter repped this.
  16. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When I heard about it, my thought is that A) it will fail with sarcasm; B) people will very quickly figure out how to beat the AI.
     
    feyenoordsoccerfan repped this.
  17. This.
     
  18. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    So Google decided to get rid of their very successful search business model to replace it with AI. Let's see how that's going:

    media_GOU_x06WcAAKMlV.png
     
    song219 and soccernutter repped this.
  19. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s a worse product AND it’s based on stealing other people’s work. Win-win?
     
    Dr. Wankler repped this.
  20. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Hope you don't mind but I re posted this in the Ref forum! They need some laughs to recover from the VAR debacle! :whistling:
     
  21. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yup. I caught a story along those lines, something about how slavery wasn't terrible, or something terrible like that.
     
  22. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    How many alcohol
    drinks per day, is suggested with the smokes.
     
  24. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    As many as it takes to relieve the pain. :unsure:
     
  25. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

Share This Page