Senior Team Discussion

Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by Vieri's Left Foot, Dec 3, 2023.

  1. azzurri06

    azzurri06 Member

    Apr 4, 2007
    san francisco
    A 3421 led by Scamacca, with Chiesa on the left and Orsolini on the right could be interesting. The way Scamacca has been able to suck in defenders and open up space for his teammates could be productive when paired with guys that have goals in them like Chiesa and Orsolini.

    Retegui has proven to be reliable in front of goal when given a chance, but he doesn't make others around him better the way Scamacca has been doing this season. Retegui more of an old school one dimensional 9 that just wants to score (which is cool to see as this type of player is a bit of an endangered species but unfortunately is a bit limiting and the game now demands more from every role and less specialists)
     
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  2. Non Venite in Puglia

    Juventus
    Italy
    Feb 26, 2021
    For me, Scalvini’s best position is as a stopper. He is a bit slow and can get caught out when playing as a braccio in the LCB or RCB position. Due to his lack of pace, he relies heavily on reading the game and anticipating the opponent’s decision before it happens. For that reason, by playing in a central position slightly in front of the backline he can act as a shield without having to worry about a misread from time to time. His passing ability is also very good, so in that central, more advanced position he can start attacks with passes through the lines alla Bonucci (again, from a slightly more advanced role). With him, Calafiori, and Bastoni’s passing ability out of the back, we will be in a better position than we have been for the last 10-12 years with just Bonucci.

    As for Darmian, he is as dependable as they come. You can plug him in a lot of spots and he will do a solid job. I just don’t see what the aversion is on this forum to using him in a position he is familiar with alongside players he has spent 2-3 seasons with.
     
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  3. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    Bellanova, our starting RWB?:



     
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  4. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    I'm not Sicilian so no skin off my back but ********ing Palermo. Gonna need Cremonese or Catanzaro to get it done.
     
  5. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Di Gregorio named as Serie A GK of the Season. Yet not good enough to be #3 on the Azzurri.

    Carnesecchi is rated higher by Spalletti given he was in the March callups.

    In the late 2010's, felt there was a dropoff in GK'ing. Either that or just didn't bother looking as Buffon had the mantle for so long. But currently, top 5 or 6 GK's could easily be #1.
     
  6. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    Donnarumma and Vicario are both world class, we are more than good with these two.
     
  7. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    I know. Was referring to Meret. IMO, he is behind Carnesecchi at #5 at best. Perhaps even #6.

    1: Gigio.
    2. "Venom" (Vicario).
    3. Di Gregorio.
    4. Provedel.
    4 Carnesecchi.
    5. Falcone.
    6. Meret.
     
  8. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    #1833 AGomes, May 24, 2024
    Last edited: May 24, 2024
    Not too confident in progressing from the Group Stage.

    It's a difficult group where the potential is that Points will be dropped (or shared, depending on how you look at it). As such, one of the best 3rd teams may not emerge from this group.

    Albania:

    A fair amount of Albanian immigrants in Italy. Obviously like any immigrant group the match will mean a lot to Albanians in Italy. If Italy brush them aside like the match a couple of years ago in Tirana (Grifo brace), then it's the perfect start. Anything less than 3 Points and it's panic time.

    Spain:

    As I wrote the day of the Draw, a matchup between nations of the two most pleasant sounding languages. Only proper Italian trumps Spanish, in my humble estimation. As for the football, stylalisticly a nightmare, for probably both teams. I'm already falling asleep, bored to tears, at their useless 1M sideways passes. Looks great in the postmatch statistics at their 575 Passes but only about half of them will be useful. As boring as they are, they can still embarass teams. If I was offered 1 Point right now, I would take it.

    Croatia:

    Seems to be a theme out there that they are an old team. They aren't, they made replacements with many young talents. Man City and Leverkusen players among them. Modric is their "filter" so there should be no surprises for how Spalletti needs to set up Defensively. Ivan Perisic, when it looked like it was over, he rehabbed his ACL tear and will play. Like with Fagioli for Italy, could have some issues.

    Italy need to have 4 Points going into the 3rd match against Croatia as historically Croatia has been Italy's bogey team.

    6 Points will be enough for advancement. 5 Points should be as well. 4 Points and it will come down to Tie Breakers.

    This is a very young Italy team, average age only driven up by Acerbi and maybe Jorginho. Many players with under 10 Caps. Written that, wouldn't change it at all. Need the younger players to start cutting their teeth. Could be beneficial as they may be ignorant enough to not let the occasion get to them. Hypothetically we can have a match where Flororunsho replaces Pellegrini, Bellanova for Darmian, Cambiaso for Dimarco, Calafiori starts. That's what? 4 Caps between all 4 players? Again, this needs to happen to continue the project but it's not ideal. Lesson's are going to be learned that International football is different.

    Will be happy with winning 1 Knockout Match (Top 8). Just have a feeling gonna finish 3rd in the Group. Hope I'm wrong. With this tournament under their belts, it's all out for 2026 Qualifiers.
     
  9. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Croatia is our “bestia nera”. We have never beat them in a competitive match. Would love to break that taboo
     
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  10. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    #1835 AGomes, May 25, 2024
    Last edited: May 25, 2024
    I know he's 34 YO and played bad in the March Friendly but 8 goals for Jack this season should not be overlooked. Starting to think that he should have been taken instead of Flororunsho. Only criticism is that most of these 8 goals were early in the season.
     
  11. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Cup Final

    FA Cup: What a howler by Josko Gvardiol. Here's hoping for something similar against Italy.

    Coupe de France: wishing Gigio a great performance and another trophy as PSG vs Lyon later today.
     
  12. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
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  13. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  14. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    About the Europa League, Mancini and Ruggeri have been named to the EL Team of the Season.
     
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  15. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Don't need 11 Defenders. Hope Acerbi is cut.

    Fagioli in the Starting 11 for Juve. Kudos for Paolo Montero for recognizing he needs the Minutes.
     
  16. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Fagioli smacks one off the crossbar. Hope they give him all 90 Minutes.
     
  17. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Fagioli showing everyone today why Spalletti selected him
     
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  18. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Alright. Starting to warm up to Fagioli's inclusion. Nice ball over the top to Ciccio Chiesa. Pity that Sorrentino saved it.
     
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  19. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Now a neat Pirlo-eque slip pass to Alex Sandro. Not sure how what's going on here but I am pleasantly surprised.
     
  20. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    #1845 AGomes, May 25, 2024
    Last edited: May 25, 2024
    A shame Fagioli didn't go the entire 90 Minutes.

    Sideline Reporter on DAZN Italy said that minutes before he was subbed off, Fagioli was asked how he was feeling and Fagioli said he was just fine and didn't want to come off. He was removed anyways.

    437 Minutes logged for the season

    Sky graded a few players a 7 on their pagelle, Fagioli one of them.
     
  21. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    looks like it will be Cremonese v Venezia. 3-0 at half time for Cremonese. You can already hear the celebrations in Cosenza…
     
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  22. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    I think Pinamonti can equal the 15 Goals Giroud scored this season. Milan should pick him up.
     
  23. Vieri#9

    Vieri#9 Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Oct 22, 2023
    If stubborn Allergi actually played a 4-3-3 or 3-4-3, Juve wouldve done much better this season with Chiesa and Yildiz on the wings.

    Love see Montero playing Chiesa on the right, getting him ready for the Euros!
     
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  24. nunzio23

    nunzio23 Member

    Juventus
    Italy
    Jul 16, 2021
    2games without Max, 2 goals for Chiesa. Not a coincidence at all!. Max wouldn't even start him most games...and if he did he was subbed off within 60 / 70 minutes.

    Chiesa is ready to breakout and perfect timing to go into the Euros with good form and hes completely recovered from the ACL.

    You also have to be impressed with Fagioli He jumped right in and was an impact player. Its clearly obvious that his struggles late last season and earlier this year were due to the gambling addiction and all of the pressure. Now that it is relieved he might be a staple in the Juve and Itialian midfield. Juve might have a distinct Italian look next season with Locatelli, Chiesa, Fagioli, Gatti, Di Gregorio and Calafiori all playing major roles.
     
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  25. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    #1850 AGomes, May 25, 2024
    Last edited: May 25, 2024
    Add Cambiaso. I want to see what Motta has got planned for Miretti. Still only 20 YO but I'd like to see maybe 250 more Minutes next season.

    0 goals for the 2 American's however. With Locatelli at a measily 1 and McKennie at 0, gonna need an improvement next season. If Motta can't squeeze goals out of them, then they'll look towards Koopmeiners and Ederson.

    RE: Fagioli

    I'm really interested in seeing what Lucio has up his sleeve. Ricci has to be 1 of the cuts. Likely Provedel for 2. One Defender but I can't figure out who. IMO, only thing that saves Acerbi is his familiarity with the Shinter core. I think it could still be Fagioli as the 4th cut. But he could very well be the vice-Pellegrini. Any shortage there can be made up with Jack Jr being able to play as a 2nd Striker. Flororunsho likely vice-Cristante or vice-Pellegrini. If it's not a 4-3-3, then one of El Sha or Mattia Zaccagni become surplus goods and the 4th cut is one of them. A Rome Derby, if you will.
     

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