The 2025 U-17 Player Pool Thread

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by TheFalseNine, Nov 22, 2023.

  1. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    He also looks like he is 13, so I suspect he has a growth spur, and certain that he will get a lot of muscles. Let's wait till he is 20 with physical evaluation.
     
  2. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    That’s the thing - he’s 17 but he looks like he’s 13.

    It doesn’t necessarily mean anything, Angel di Maria had a phenomenal career despite looking like a slight breeze would take him into the rafters. It’s just something to keep an eye on.

    The real issue for Shore is he’s falling into a tweener space of not really a midfielder and not really a winger. He isn’t consistent enough and secure enough through the middle of the field and not dynamic on the edges. How he develops his game over the next couple years will be crucial.
     
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  3. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    U-16s



    https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/20...ica-for-matches-against-uruguay-and-argentina

    U.S. U-16 MYNT ROSTER – MAY TRAINING CAMP – BUENOS AIRES, ARGENTINA
    GOALKEEPERS (2): Jack Kortkamp (Sporting Kansas City; Olathe, Kan.), Owen Pratt (LA Galaxy; San Clemente, Calif.)

    DEFENDERS (7): Christopher Cupps (Chicago Fire FC; Chicago, Ill.), Pedro Guimaraes (LAFC; Aliso Viejo, Calif.), Ramiz Hamouda (Birmingham Legion FC; Lincoln, Neb.), Ian James (Sporting Kansas City; St. Paul, Minn.), Adrian Sanders (LAFC; Claremont, Calif.), Oliver Tan (San Jose Earthquakes; Piedmont, Calif.), Gio Villa (Real Salt Lake; Chicago, Ill.)

    MIDFIELDERS (4): Maximo Carrizo (New York City FC; Greenwich, Conn.), Evan Lim (New York City FC; Cedar Grove, N.J.), Jack Mize (Borussia Dortmund/GER; New York City, N.Y.), Luca Moisa (Real Salt Lake; Las Vegas, Nev.)

    FORWARDS (6): Chase Adams (Columbus Crew; Naperville, Ill.), Mathis Albert (LA Galaxy; El Segundo, Calif.), Vitaliy Hlyut (Chicago Fire FC; Roselle, Ill.), Jamir Johnson (Philadelphia Union; Huntsville, Ala.), Omar Marquez (Real Salt Lake; Woodland, Calif.), Tanner Rosborough (New York Red Bulls; McDonald, Pa.)
     
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  4. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Why no Hall or Sullivan? I'm guessing that there are plans for them at their teams.
     
  5. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    not released?
     
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  6. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Jude Terry and Cristiano Oliveira also omitted.

    Doesn't look like there are enough mids on this roster. Maybe one or two will be added.

    The article says 20 players were selected but the list only contains 19.
     
  7. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Don't know much about the kids, but pretty sure Segares isn't a good at selection. He shouldn't be coaching this very important age group.
     
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  9. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Terry is injured.
     
  10. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I think this camp he did a little better than he has in the past. Still too many small unathletic players (his speciality) and no real holding midfielders, which I don’t get at all.
     
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  11. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  12. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    Supposedly we are playing (played?) Uruguay today.

    Any word on that? Stream?
     
  13. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Argentina's announcement about its matches indicated that they would be closed-door games, so I would guess we might get highlights at best.
     
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  16. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do we even know who scored the goal for the US? Based on zero info I'm gonna guess Jamir Johnson
     
  17. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    [​IMG]

    Who let Brian McBride on the team?

    Also, goalscorer was Luca Moisa (#6) per USYNT twitter account.
     
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  18. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    A lock for that overage spot for 2028 Olympics.
     
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  19. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tied Argentina 2-2 with two goals from Albert



    Follow up tweet has the lineup as: 1 - Jack Kortkamp, 2 - Juan Villa, 3 - Pedro Guimaraes, 5 - Adrian Sanders, 6 - Luca Moisa, 10 - Maximo Carrizo, 11 - Mathis Albert, 13 - Evan Lim, 14 - Vitaliy Hlyut, 18 - Ian James, 19 - Tanner Rosborough
     
  20. ProfessorVoetbal

    Feb 21, 2020
    Would have been nice to see Jack Mize on the field at the same time as Carrizo and Albert.

    Would be even crazier if we get Carrizo, Albert, Mize, and Cavan Sullivan all on together in upcoming tournaments. Imagine all that talent together at the same time

    BTW, when is the next CONCACAF U17 Championship?
     
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  21. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Hall and Terry were missing. It is an amazing group. Especially when you consider Berchimas is also an 08 but will not be playing with this group.
     
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  22. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mathis Albert



     
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  23. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    #148 Thundering165, May 31, 2024
    Last edited: May 31, 2024
    This 08-09 attacking group is going to be insane.

    Hall’s hype has quieted down a bit but in terms of actual on field production he’s still probably number one at striker. At the U17 level he’ll be unplayable. Then you have Carrizo, Albert, and possibly Berchimas out wide. I think Berchimas moving up makes more sense though.

    Midfield looks pretty stacked too with Sullivan, Terry, and Wellings good options already.

    Defenders and goalkeeper will probably be the positions with the most competition as no one really stands out at the next level yet. Stokes is starting in MLSNP and though he gets worked on a regular basis no one else is showing up at that level. Romero would be a huge get and raises the ceiling of the team.

    A lot can change between now and 2025 but if we get the players from this group that we can this team could reasonably compete for the World Cup title. I don’t think I’ve ever felt like that about a youth team.
     
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  24. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    You forgot Hassan.

    The slightly older group (U20 team) has some very good attacking talent too. Campbell, Bajraktarevic, Figueroa, Fletcher.

    Midfield aint too shabby either: Cremaschi, Vargas, Medina, Habroune, Tsakiris, Soma
     
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  25. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Yeah, it's just so hard at that age for those positions to be able to keep up. Most don't realize it, but MLSNP has gotten a lot better the last few years. I think it's closer to USL Championship level than USL League One level at this point.

    A few of the guys for this group have done okay. James I feel has done decently. Cupps had some bad moments against Roald Mitchell in his first game (the best player in MLSNP this season before his injury), but has looked fine otherwise for Fire II. Hamouda in limited minutes has Birmingham Legion in USL has done a respectable job.

    I think these positions will be solid, if not better than that. I don't see them as weaknesses, but they probably aren't as strong as some of the forward positions, and the reality is that most of these kids are just too young at these defensive positions to compete against men. Even the ones who are tall and athletic at the U-17 level look like regular athletes once they get placed in these pro leagues.
     

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