2024 Non-Champions (i.e. Other Teams’) News Thread—Streaming Now on BigSoccer +

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  1. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NFL RedZone. Often imitiated. Never duplicated.

    This is part of the reason why it works for NFL, but not so much other sports. At 1pm, there's anywhere from 6-9 games going on. Remove the games that are at commercial or at the defensive end of the field and there's still 2-3 games that are potentially exciting.

    In MLS, maybe you have five games at 7:30pm and another two at 8:30pm. How many of those games will be at halftime before the 8:30 games kick off? How many of them will be at VAR, an injury situation or at the other end of the field doing a free kick? Yeah, things can turn on a dime, but it doesn't work as good.

    As said, there's just one announcer in the studio (nerd alert: It's actually a green screen) and he doesn't talk much over the regular announcers at the game other than to bring viewers up to speed. "Let's go to Chiefs at Jaguars where such-and-such 40-yd run just happened to put the Chiefs in scoring position."

    Yeah, there's a lot more highlights and studio stuff in the second window when there's fewer games.

    Where NFL RedZone also shines is when the early games are at halftime. Because of the nature of timeouts and all, even with a minimum of six games, there's at least 1-2 games that aren't at halftime. One game might have 13:52 left in the third quarter with another game having 1:38 left before halftime.

    Their kickoff montage is also fun. "Let's see how many kickoffs we can show live starting just after 1pm."

    I saw an interview with Chris Hanson on what happens after they sign off. The ear piece immediately comes out, he does a semi-collapse on the desk to catch his breath...then he goes home to this massive TV setup. The main TV goes on NBC and then he's got four TVs at the corners of the big TV. Those TVs go on NFL Network and ESPN where he watches highlights of things aired during RedZone.

    ESPN had an NCAA version for a few years. It was weird not only because of commercials but because they couldn't get the rights to every game.

    Often imitiated. Never duplicated.

    Maybe I should give MLS 360 another chance.
     
  2. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS 360 should and can work… just get rid of the three clowns. Hell, just put Matt Doyle in there instead, now you only need two more.
     
  3. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Caleb Porter

    Now there is a report he is avoiding meetings with Jonathan Kraft (co-owner) and had more fights with players after their last game: including with Carles Gil, Mark Anthony Kaye, and Nick Lima (for the second week in a row). Lima didn’t shake his hand when coming off, and Porter yelled at him in the tunnel post game, “never disregard my fvcking hand shake again”!

    LOL. Looks like 3 seasons in a row with no playoffs for Caleb. At this rate, he might not even make it to the all-star break.
     
  4. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or two and a half, as it may be.
     
  5. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #880 Kryptonite, May 21, 2024
    Last edited: May 21, 2024
    5/18/2024
    New England hosted DC United.
    New England got a red card in the 14th.
    Philly scored on the 38th, 47th and 80th

    "It's just an impossible task to go that long down a man" -- Caleb Porter postgame.

    Let's go back to 5/19/2001:
    1 : 0 Brian McBride 25.
    Columbus Crew red card 59th
    Columbus Crew red card 67th.
    1 : 1 Santino Quaranta 69.
    2 : 1 Jeff Cunningham 99.

    Columbus comes back to win after being tied and down two players.

    "Impossible? Well, that's just like, your opinion, man." -- The Dude X Wilfried Nancy.

    I bet there's even better examples, but the summary of that game reminded of the 5/19/01 game.
     
  6. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #881 Bill Archer, May 21, 2024
    Last edited: May 21, 2024
    Let me just ask:

    When is the last time you heard about a coach getting in angry arguments with players on the field, at practice and in the locker room, (where players were reportedly also arguing with each other) getting snotty and nasty with reporters, snubbing the owner and blaming his players, the refs and the league for the fact that his team - which on paper is just not that bad - is sinking like a rock, and then everything suddenly turned around and was a big success?

    Every single time you hear that story it winds up rather quickly with a coach out of a job. I have very little respect for the Kraft family and particularly sonny boy (who the fans used to call Uday) but no owner in any sport can let that crap go on. They just can't. It damages the team's image and makes the owner look like a weak idiot.

    I would imagine it's going to cost them a pretty penny to fire him but how in the world can they let this go on?
     
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  7. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 14, 2018
    Speaking of messi not being at games


    It is the furthest any team has ever traveled for a game. Vancouver's owner has talked about putting grass in permanently, but that wouldn't have saved them.
     
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  8. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    Nobody wants to play on turf , on a weeks rest choosing not to play ? Good thing they didn’t temporarily get grass just to lure him to play.
     
  9. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True enough. But they play Wednesday at home and that is a ling trip back for the old folks.

    Hopefully they drop points and Toronto does us a favor vs Cincy.

    Still, I'd love a win vs Orlando, but coming through healthy with our key guys free of knocks is the #1 priority. Though nothing we can do, short of resting our entire best XI, could guarantee it.
     
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  10. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Saw this in Rome--not to mention a ton of Miami Messi jerseys in the stores.
    IMG_2580.JPG
     
  12. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
    Staff Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Messi flies to Rome and makes chicken sandwiches for people?
     
  13. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Damn. Cincy got a stoppage-time winner in Toronto. Them dropping two points would have been nice.
     
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  15. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    Yeah watched the very end of it the. The highlights

    only disappointing part of the night. Hopefully Miami gets beat.
     
  16. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow. Dallas, at home, got a couple goals off of goalkeeping howlers en route to a 3-0 lead against RSL. RSL came all the way back to get a 3-3 draw, getting their third goal literally at the death.
     
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  17. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting.

    This is a 14-match day for MLS. Ten matches are completed. In those ten, there were five draws, and the home teams lost the other five.

    In the four remaining matches at the half, three are tied and the home team is losing the fourth.

    There's a real possibility that we may have a maximum-fixture matchday where all the home sides fail to win. I wonder what kind of odds you could have gotten on that. I'd also like to know if that's happened before.
     
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  18. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And then LA and Portland both won.
     
  19. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, once again, the LA Galaxy keep MLS fans from having nice things. They hold on to win at home.

    Portland did also, but that was old news at that point.

    14 games, only two home wins today.
     
  20. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #895 Bill Archer, May 26, 2024
    Last edited: May 26, 2024
    Plus, Miami left everyone at home to "rest" and they beat Vancouver anyway. The Caps should really consider joining the Canadian "Premier League" instead of wasting everyone's time with their cheap, ugly artificial turf pointyball stadium and shitty team.

    And in news of the ridiculous, Caleb Porter is still employed despite another desultory loss. No reports of locker room fistfights but give it time. NE is the odds on favorite for the spoon, which is not what Hand Job Bob is paying him for.

    Meanwhile, Brad Guzan got sent off for a ridiculous assault on a charging forward. Time for Shrek to go play with his grandchildren.

    Cincy lost five starters from last year's shield winner, and they just won their seventh straight despite starting two 19 year olds up front. Noonan knows what he's doing. The two best coaches in MLS work in Ohio; convince me that I'm wrong.
     
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  21. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    They lost some good players and I hoped they would fall apart but they made good moves to replace those starters. Luca Orellano is one of them.


    Just at a glance :


    Key Departures
    • Santiago Arias: 2G & 1A Arias, Cincy's starting right wingback in 2023, signed for Brazilian top-flight side Bahia this winter. It was a short, but memorable stay for the Colombian international.
    • Junior Moreno: 4G & 2A The Venezuelan international midfielder was out of contract, then signed for Saudi Pro League side Al-Hazem. Moreno, combined with a DC stretch, played in 153 MLS matches.
    • Yerson Mosquera: 2G & 1A After a successful season-long loan to Cincy, the Colombian international center back returned to Premier League side Wolves. He's now on another loan at LaLiga side Villarreal.
    • Brandon Vazquez: 8G & 2A European-centric transfer speculation shifted into Vazquez joining Liga MX powerhouse side Monterrey for a reported $7.5 million with $1 million in add-ons and a sell-on clause. The USMNT striker had 26g/12a in 62 matches (2yrs)
    • Álvaro Barrio started regularly had 5G & 6asst
    • Dominic Badji 5G& 3A
    • Also Boupenza has been injured and is not currently contributing and rumors swirling he may never play again for FCC
    • ADDITIONS:
    • Kevin Kelsey u22 on loan with option to buy looks promising
    • Corey Baird a glue guy solid veteran
    • Pavel Bucha - is he better than Moreno or just a better fit in the midfield? Or is he a weak link??
    • Luca Orellano who is on fire
    • Miles Robinson- we all know he was good but will he stay healthy?

    • Fact is they aren’t going to fall off and our Rivals are serious competition as they seem to also have a great Coach and FO. Should make a lot of fun Hell is Real match ups as we should battle for supremacy!!! Miami appears to make the East a 3 headed monster but as soon as Messi leaves it could all come crashing down. But they do have a lot of young talent behind the old guys.
     
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  22. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    New England lost again lol. Dead last in the league.
     
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  23. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #898 Bill Archer, May 26, 2024
    Last edited: May 26, 2024
    I hadn't thought about it, but Miami-to-Vancouver is almost seven hours in the air. So 14 hours round trip to stuff some older players in an aluminum tube to go play on a crappy turf pitch.

    "Rest" my ass. Thats a ridiculous road trip.

     
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  24. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    They won so Miami looks brilliant, it’s a long season and they are trying to win everything so they have to pick and choose wisely when to not play Messi and some of the other older guys. They are already hit by the injury bug and playing on that turf seems like a bad idea.
    I hope Messi plays vrs Columbus so when we win it’s more of a achievement. But if they chose not to play him we better win. They already got the best of us last year with a bad team. I find it comical that ppl complain about Messi not playing or any player for that matter. You would think winning is more important than the other teams star player. It’s just weird to me.
     
  25. TyphonInc

    TyphonInc Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jul 3, 2018
    Dublin, OH
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Messi transcends sport. He is the GOAT, and having a chance to say you saw the GOAT play live, is vastly more important to most people that getting 3 points in a long season.
     
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