The US Supreme Court Thread - Post Roe v. Wade reversal edition

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  1. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
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    Jul 16, 2017
    Let's just remember Republican logic and that, most likely, of this Supreme Court: a 12 year old girl is old enough to carry her ra**** baby to term and be a mom, but not old enough to read books about gay people, or have sex ed. Or be given vaccines.
     
  2. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
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    At a very general level, the reason is that in both instances, the Court sided (for now) with the decisions of the respective state legislatures. Once Shelby County gutted pre-clearance, the part of the VRA that these lawsuits are filed under (and just normal civil practice with regard to who bears the burden of proof) operates with some built-in deference to the initial decision of the legislature.
     
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  3. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Seems terrifying:

     
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  4. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    Birmingham City FC
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    It sounds like the blue states should stop listening to SCOTUS decisions.
     
  5. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
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    I’ve said it before…that’s a crop that will only thrive if the Dems are willing to make this an issue, year after year, until it’s mainstreamed.

    It can’t happen today because it’s impossible to keep this kind of things behind the curtain, but the Dems need someone to write their own version of the Powell Memorandum.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_F._Powell_Jr.#Powell_Memorandum,_1971
     
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  6. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Jul 23, 2004
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    I am not sure how you can fix such a constitutional rupture without a complete reform of the court. But that can't happen by any constitutional means - so probably Joe should just accept reality. But he won't of course because we have to pretend this is a free and fair election where one guy did a coup
     
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  7. Funkfoot

    Funkfoot Member+

    May 18, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    The Louisiana case isn't done. The 6-3 ruling says it's too late to change the map for the 2024 election, but the lawsuit (filed by the discriminated against white people) can proceed after that. The liberals on the court were OK with the districts so voted against that decision. When the legislature made the new map, the old map ceased to exist, so there is nothing to go back to - so the map with 2 majority black districts will be used for this election (then probably thrown out).
     
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  8. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    I may be the last person in this forum to connect the dots but…the whole point of the VRA was because the apartheid South couldn’t be trusted. The bill’s reason for being was to take this stuff out of the hands of state legislatures.

    Good grief
     
  9. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    Vanuatu
    Don’t you know that racism is over and a legislature wouldn’t act with racist motives?
     
  10. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
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    Jul 16, 2017
    We elected a black guy as president! Cops kill so few black people these days! They're even getting into Harvard.

    Racism is over in America

    By the by, that was sarcasm.
     
  11. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    California doesn't listen to their voters, so why listen to a far away court. (Many Republican states also ignore their own voters on things like Medicare expansion)

     
  12. soccernutter

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    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
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    I don't think King. He would make some speech about the abhorrence of violence. Depending on when, it would either be in front of SCOTUS or at an AME church in DC.
     
  13. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    free beacon dude. check under the hood before quoting anything that lot claim.
     
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  14. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

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    James writes for the new Yorker (used to?) but he is quoting the free Bacon story, that is true.

     
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  15. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Yes, that was the pre-clearance part that Shelby County killed.
     
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  16. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Colombia
    What is better than owning a SCOTUS justice? Writing the expenses off!!!

     
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  17. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

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    Jul 16, 2017
    It's only tax fraud if the SC says it is. They already made bribery a crime that can't be committed (9-0 to boot). What's one more law that affects them and their buddies?
     
  18. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    South Florida
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    Colombia
    Three years from now we’re going to learn that Martha was the ringleader, not Gini:

     
  19. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Millonarios Bogota
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    Colombia
    And Sam lied about the dates:

     
  20. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Jul 23, 2004
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    Belgium
    it’s amazing this stuff is not a bigger scandal.
     
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  21. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    And that the media sat on it for three years.
     
  22. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
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    What the ******** is wrong with the right wing SC justices and their spouses?

    Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett’s husband is currently representing Fox Corporation, the parent company of Fox News, in a defamation lawsuit, Rolling Stone reports.
     
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  23. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    Nothing. They are doing exactly what they were selected to do.
     
  24. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
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    United States
    Thanks to SCOTUS not having any real ethics rules (they set them for themselves, after all), a spouses activities do not require a Justice to recuse from any cases. I'm not even sure ACB would be required to recuse if her husband was the one presenting to SCOTUS.
     
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  25. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
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    Jul 16, 2017
    SC Justices are not required to recuse themselves for anything.
     
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