PBP: Copa do Brasil 2024

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  1. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    The biggest prize in Brazilian football, 2024 edition.

    https://ge.globo.com/futebol/copa-d...sil-2024-veja-quais-serao-os-confrontos.ghtml

    The draw was held today, with 80 teams to play Round 1. Round 2 will be the 40 winners. Round 3 will add the 12 remaining teams that get a bye to the 20 winners.

    The 12 teams that will join in Round 3 are:

    Palmeiras, São Paulo, Red Bull Bragantino, Flamengo, Fluminense, Botafogo, Grêmio, Atlético-MG, Athletico-PR, Goiás, Ceará, Vitória

    Some big teams and their matchups are:
    • Cianorte-PR x Corinthians (winner plays the winner of the match below)
    • Olaria-RJ x São Bernardo-SP
    • Fluminense-PI x Fortaleza
    • Manauara-AM x Retrô-PE
    • ASA-AL x Internacional
    • Itabuna-BA x Nova Iguaçu-RJ
    • Sousa-PB x Cruzeiro
    • Petrolina-PE x Cascavel-PR
    • Marcílio Dias-SC x Vasco
    • Água Santa-SP x Jacuipense-BA
    Notably, Santos did not qualify.

    Round 1 will be played midweek in the last two weeks of February (21, 28)
     
  2. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Some matches will be available live for free on ge today:

    https://ge.globo.com/futebol/copa-d...e-graca-nesta-quarta-feira-veja-a-lista.ghtml

    Not sure if this will be available outside of Brazil, but this are some of the smaller team matchups like

    Audax-RJ x Portuguesa-RJ
    Independente x Amazonas
    São Luiz x Ituano

    among others.

    The earliest game of the round has begun already. The bigger name teams that are in the first round play tomorrow and Thursday (including Cruzeiro, Corinthians, Bahia, Vasco).
     
  3. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Cruzeiro was just knocked out by Sousa (Paraíba) with a scoreline of 2 x 0. The game was goalless until the last few mins with Cruzeiro going through when Sousa scored a goal and then another one which was a screamer in injury time.

    The game was played in a pitch that was water logged from the rain (at least from the last few mins I saw when the goals were scored).

    Sousa are in the D Division of the national league.
     
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  4. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Obviously Cruzeiro's priority this year is to stay in Serie A, but for Copa do Brasil to fail to get to round 3 when the other big teams join in is a huge upset.

    The second round draw is already known, and set up so the few big teams at this stage don't run into each other. Their second round match-up would have been against the winner of Petrolina x Cascável.

    At any rate, I wonder if it's much of a financial shortfall. Winning the final is the biggest financial prize, but I don't know what the clubs get for rounds 1 and 2.

    Until this result, I guess Porto Velho beating Remo was the biggest "upset" so far.

    Most of the other Serie A teams in round 1 haven't played yet. They either play tomorrow or next week.
     
  5. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    In terms of prize money yeah, the prize jumps are in the SF and Final. But they do lose stadium attendance money if they were to play subsequent rounds at home. That can add up if you're in a financial hole.
     
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  6. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Corinthians got an easy win away from home.

    Coritiba were eliminated, so Cruzeiro has company in not being the only bigger team eliminated early. But Coritiba are Serie B this year, so not quite as huge an upset.

    Vasco, Fortaleza, Internacional are the biggest teams left to debut in round 1, they all play next week.
     
  7. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Vasco were on the verge of elimination tonight, they were down 3x2 to Agua Santa and tied 3x3 in injury time.

    They won on PKs (second round of Copa do Brasil, draws go straight to PKs).

    More Copa do Brasil matches this week and next. Then there's a break and the 3rd round will be played in May. 3rd round draw date TBD.
     
  8. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Inter beat Nova Iguaçu today to qualify for the next round. Nova Iguaçu are actually resting players to focus on the Carioca this weekend.

    Corinthians plays tomorrow and so does Fortaleza, those are the two biggest clubs on the last day of matches.
     
  9. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Corinthians and Fortaleza made it. Fortaleza had to go to penalties to win, after a 0x0 match.

    Here are the 32 remaining teams:

    Pot 1:
    Flamengo
    Palmeiras
    São Paulo
    Athletico Paranaense
    Atlético Mineiro
    Corinthians
    Fluminense
    Grêmio
    Fortaleza
    Internacional
    Bahia
    Botafogo
    Bragantino
    Atlético Goianiense
    Ceará
    Cuiabá

    Pot 2:
    Goiás
    Vasco da Gama
    Juventude
    Sport
    CRB
    Vitória
    Criciúma
    Sampaio Corrêa
    Operário-PR
    Botafogo-SP
    Brusque
    Ypiranga de Erechim
    América de Natal
    Amazonas
    Sousa
    Águia de Marabá
     
  10. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    The draw for the next round (starting May 1) was done today:

    https://ge.globo.com/futebol/copa-d...024-veja-os-confrontos-da-terceira-fase.ghtml

    Operário-PR x Grêmio
    Bahia x Criciúma
    Sampaio Corrêa-MA x Fluminense
    Sousa-PB x Red Bull Bragantino
    Goiás x Cuiabá
    Botafogo x Vitória
    Fortaleza x Vasco
    Flamengo x Amazonas
    Águia de Marabá x São Paulo
    Palmeiras x Botafogo-SP
    Ypiranga-RS x Athletico-PR
    Internacional x Juventude
    CRB x Ceará
    América-RN x Corinthians
    Brusque-SC x Atlético-GO
    Atlético-MG x Sport
     
  11. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Gabigol making his comeback . Subbing in against Amazonas.
     
  12. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Palmeiras 2 x 1 Botafogo

    Palmeiras almost let a win get away. estevão scored the winner in the last play of the game.

    Of note, endrick almost scored a really nice goal hitting the inside of the post. But the star of the game was estevão. This kid is doing really good. He has a really quick first step. This is one to look out for in the near future. Will probably be sold soon. Here is a nice play with him and endrick that almost lead to a goal.

     
  13. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I like how you didn't specify which Botafogo!

    Flamengo won but because it was just 1x0 and uninspiring it doesn't really help break the current slump in the eyes of fans and pundits.

    The most notable part of the match was the return of Gabigol as his suspension was suspended pending a final judgment. Pedro scored but Gabigol got plenty of love just for coming on in the second half.
     
  14. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Totally unintentional ... :D
     
  15. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Looks like most of the big teams are through to the next round, pending only the postponed matches (Gremio x Operario, CAP x Ypiranga and both legs of Inter x Juventude).

    Flamengo and Palmeiras did the bare minimum. Sao Paulo with the widest margin of victory I think (up 2x0 now, after a 3x1 first leg).

    Probably the biggest match-up was the most even, with Vasco 3x3 Fortaleza after a 0x0 draw in Fortaleza, resulting in penalties that Vasco won. So Fortaleza easily the biggest elimination of this round.

    I'm not sure when the postponed matches will be played and if the draw for round 4 will happen before or after those are concluded.
     
  16. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    All the big teams struggling against weaker competition with some really bad performances.
     
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