News: MLS Coaching and Front Office - News & Discussion Thread 2024

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by PhillyMLS, Feb 19, 2024.

  1. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lots of "drama" in Revs land

     
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  2. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, Porter yelling at Spaulding would be expected, since he took a stupid red card that set the tone for the night.

    But it does seem like he's losing the locker room, if he hasn't already. The sad thing is, this is a decent team. Most fans realistically expected the Revs to be in the top 1/3 of the league, the only question being is if they'd be favored in the first-round playoffs. Now, even with a Messi-like turnaround, they won't even make the playoffs. Last year, despite winning almost all of their games after Messi, Miami was in such a hole from the start that they missed out.

    Not that the Revs are even close to signing anyone decent this summer...:mad:
     
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  3. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Getting rid of Porter and signing someone else would be a decent summer.
     
  4. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But neither of those is going to happen, not this year at least.
     
  5. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
  6. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Better Rooney than Frank Yallop
     
  7. SetPeace

    SetPeace Member+

    Jun 22, 2004
    SC Illinois
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Plymouth just barely avoided relegation this season to League 1 from the Championship. Rooney coming in could finish the job for Argyle? Yikes!
     
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  8. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So we went 1-1-3 since I posted this, with our only win coming from a DOGSO PK/red called via VAR. We were also outscored 13-9 in those 5 games, despite a shutout in our one win (so 13-8 in the last 4 games). Needless to say some of that early season success was a mirage of playing against bad teams and teams that overlooked us. That's not happening anymore. There is a better mentality in the team, we keep coming back from deficits. We just can't hold a lead or even a draw late.
     
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  9. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. MuchoTakeItEasy

    MuchoTakeItEasy Member+

    LAFC
    United States
    May 16, 2015
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  12. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably right, I guess being with a club so long has its perks; Porter is too new/New England too gutless to fire him this quick, so I'd probably say the seats in San Jose and Chicago are pretty warm at this point.
     
  13. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The ones with butts in them.
     
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  14. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

    Aug 12, 2012
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Peters boss is a guy named Peter. He answers to some dude named Peter who answers to the owners. But the owners do whatever the first Peter says.
     
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  15. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So who has more job security-Carlos Bocanegra or Peter Vermes?
     
  16. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sporting Vermes City.
     
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  17. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    Unfortunately, Luchi Gonzales isn't going anywhere, anytime soon. Jared Shawlee isn't about to buy out Luchi's contract to get rid of him, he's far too fiscally conservative to make that move. So we're stuck with him and his MLS v 1.0 thinking.
     
  18. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Peter Principle in action?
     
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  19. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That sounds like something I’d read on my tearaway calendar of 365 dad jokes.

    Respect to you, good sir. :)
     
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  20. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]
     
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  21. SetPeace

    SetPeace Member+

    Jun 22, 2004
    SC Illinois
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, that's 2 MLS coaches shown the door so far this season. Last year, there were 11 coaches replaced.

    Who could go next? Orlando? Montreal? Chicago? Dallas? Anyone else besides the aforementioned New England, San Jose, and Kansas City potentials (even though the odds of this happening seem rather small, at present)?
     
  22. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Orlando just signed Oscar to a new deal this offseason. Ditto Chicago with Klopas, though they have been pretty abysmal thus fat this season/. One can never rule out a change in Montreal, it is Saputo afterall. Dallas has a lot of injuries. New England..... doubt Kraft wants to pay a buyout/severance on two coaches, plsu pay a new coach. San Jose is cheap and will likely let Luchi's contract run down.

    I think Josh Wolf is still a candidate to be shown the door. Phil Neville is in a tough spot, as the Timbers have spent money to bring in talent, and they aren't performing consistently.

    Does Sporting Director Vermes relieve Head Coach Vermes of his duties?
     
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  23. Egbert Sousé

    Egbert Sousé Member

    NYCFC
    May 25, 2013
    nyc
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nick Cushing pointing and laughing.
     
  24. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I never had a problem with Cushing. I had a problem with not having a reliable goal scorer.
     
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  25. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's all pretty "meta" to see how Peter may be demonstrating the Peter Principle. :)

    In all seriousness, I think the Vermes message is stale in KC. I've heard from more than a few people that the general shelf life for a coach or GM is 10-12 years tops. I remember when Mike McCarthy was dealing with the same thing with the Green Bay Packers. After 10-11 years, he just hit a plateau.

    Vermes could probably move into semi-retirement doing something with either SKC's academy or with MLS Next Pro. The academy seemed to be a real passion project of his until the last couple of years or so.
     

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