Copa America 2024 - General Thread

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  1. BocaFan

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    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Yeah, the obsession with Messi makes sense in the MLS world where he's by far the best player, but there are lots of good players in the Copa, including some that are better. So the obsession is weird.

    People might be sleeping on Brazil. They've won 3 Copa Americas in-a-row that Neymar wasn't involved in. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: Seriously though, they could totally win this thing.
     
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  2. HomietheClown

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    Just hard to imagine them winning with a new manager and with a make shift defense. Their Fullbacks are not that good.

    If their defense can improve and their Keeper gets hot maybe Brasil can win it but they need a major mentality shift and some leaders to step up.
     
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  3. almango

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    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
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    Australia
    Good news (for me). Just found out that Australian rights to both the Euro and the Copa America are held by a streaming service that I'm already subscribed to. Lots of international football to watch in June/July.
     
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  4. sidspaceman

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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
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    Colombia
     
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  5. Paul Calixte

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    United States
     
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  6. HomietheClown

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  7. BocaFan

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    Makes sense. Hopefully teams won't take advantage of that new rule (i.e. faking a head injury if they need to make a 6th sub), but health first.

    Amazing that Otamendi still makes the squad of the world champs. I know its only a preliminary list but I don't think he'd be on the prelim list if it wasn't intended to put him on the final one.
     
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  8. HomietheClown

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    They did say the medical team has to give them a report after the game so I assume it will be detailed and confirmed by a third party medical staff.

    But this is CONMEBOL so never assume anything.
     
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  9. almango

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    Australia
    You can prevent teams taking advantage of it by simply banning players suffering a concussion from training and games for a period after the game, all in the interests of player health of course. In Rugby league in Australia we ban players from playing for 11 days (or 14 if the player is under 19 years of age). As its a contact sport with heavy collisions the risk of repeat concussions is considerable.
     
  10. BocaFan

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    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Hmmm...but doesn't it take several minutes, if not longer to determine if a player suffered a concussion? In the meantime, the substitution would happen right away, as a precaution and to avoid playing a man short for too long
     
  11. almango

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    Australia
    In the NRL a player is replaced for up to 15 minutes while they undergo a head injury assessment (HIA). They have a bench of 4 and are allowed 8 changes during the game with replaced players able to return. The HIA counts as a free swap if the player passes the HIA and returns to the field within the 15 minutes. If the player is ruled out then it counts as an injury replacement but the club are allowed to add an extra player to the bench to keep numbers at 17.
     
  12. BocaFan

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    Queens, NY
    Since I know there were some complaints about this earlier in the thread, the parent company of Ticketmaster is under major fire from the US government for running a monopoly. 'bout frickin' time, I'd say.

    U.S., states sue to ‘break up’ Ticketmaster parent Live Nation (msn.com)

     
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  13. sidspaceman

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    Feb 20, 2002
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    Colombia
     
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  14. sidspaceman

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    Colombia
     
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  15. HomietheClown

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  16. HomietheClown

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    So going back to previous arguments in the thread... ...you can see why a sixteen team tournament is really only viable in the USA. There really are not too many other Countries that can guarantee that amount of money for Federations participating in it.
     
  17. Nico Limmat

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    Oct 24, 1999
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    Switzerland
    So I guess we can put this pesky 16-team Copa experiment to rest after this edition and instead add another Gold Cup to the calendar. :D
     
  18. uuaww

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    Nov 21, 2007
    New Orleans, LA
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    This is why we are going to see this tournament in the US often. No one in South America can even host it without losing money. They will be driven by the pay days.
     
  19. Paul Calixte

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    By it, you mean the 16-team format, or the Copa América in general?

    And at some point, would Mexico not be a viable host?
     
  20. NaBUru38

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    Mar 8, 2016
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    It's quite easy to do 16 teams in two countries, say Argentina and Uruguay (we are due next).
     
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  21. HomietheClown

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    Maybe half- and- half with USA.
     
  22. HomietheClown

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    It would probably not make as much money down there. But I can see a tournament like that happening.
     
  23. BocaFan

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    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Yeah, there was a bigger Copa scheduled for 2020. Two groups of six played in Argentina and Colombia. At least that was the plan until COVID hit. Such a tournament would have consisted of 38 matches compared to this summer's 32 match tournament.
     
  24. pirozhok

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    Jul 20, 2007
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Is it true that many games will start at midnight PST?
     
  25. HomietheClown

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