The PGMOL are VARy sorry.....again- The VAR Thread II [R]

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Samarkand, Oct 12, 2023.

  1. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    btw - me on ignoire or whatever from Hobo (again) - apparently his "ignoring works as well as his logic" - if I put him on ignore that would be it...
    but, I digress again -
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    does anyone here, other than Hobo think that if Jesus did that on the one yard from the goal-line that it's "given the current rules never been given as a handball"

    I really think this guy is becoming mentally ill from magical analysis of rule-loopholes???
    (and if he is right - wtf are the current rules that allow for the inclusion of such mind-bending stupidity???)

    that statement is fvcking insane
     
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  2. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
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    Hobo has stepped over the line into Troll territory. a player punching the ref on the halfway line and kicking him as he goes down will be ok soon.
     
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  3. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    I’ve seen ‘em given.
     
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  4. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    From Hobo. ( I’m not going to post the whole diatribe :))

    “Uh, no. This is incorrect. Because there is NO problem in the above scenario (if) the 90 fans you're talking about don't understand the rules.”

    Yep, 90 or 90% of fans are dumb shits. Follow VAR rules and you’re right. Who gives a shit about football.
     
  5. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    If he’s over the halfway line into attacking territory: Is he offside?
    How would VAR decide?
     
  6. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
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    This thread is tedious. Let's all step away from it for a while.
     
  7. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
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    Euro and Copa VAR decisions here.

    I mean there won't be any likely - so this should be a nice calm thread.
     
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  8. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
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    no VAR at Euros??

    YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!
     
  9. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
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    I thought this thread was locked??

    What is this - moderate by whim?? :p
     
  10. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
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    Of course. That's how moderation works!
     
  11. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    That's like me in the wine cellar!!
     
  12. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    Can we please merge this thread with the Lumpy Does DC, No Abortion For You! thread? It’s going to be kinda boring otherwise.
     
  13. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
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    How can there be controversies without prem refs?

    Oh Michael Oliver is there. Nevermind.
     
  14. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

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  15. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
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    Porteous sent off for Scotland, via VAR. Pretty reasonable call.

    Havertz buries the pen.
     
  16. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    horrible challenge.

    but love how quick the decision was for that as well as the non-penalty earlier.
     
  17. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

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    Get ready for lots of reds at this Euros...
     
  18. speker

    speker Member+

    May 16, 2009
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    Hmm, I suppose that would include chest high contact too. Interesting.
     
  19. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Doku will get his losing awaited red card.
     
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  20. speker

    speker Member+

    May 16, 2009
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    If they call all contact above the boot with zero tolerance and do it consistently I'm good with that. The players will have a clear understanding of what is not permissible.

    The refs calls must be consistent across all games and I'm hoping to see a good standard of officiating.
     
  21. Menace2Sobriety

    Menace2Sobriety Member+

    Aug 12, 2004
    Washington DC
    They just need to add VAR for simulation.
     
  22. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

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    We also need the lunging in with no control element, seems a pretty crucial part to what they're talking about here.
     
  23. speker

    speker Member+

    May 16, 2009
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    #623 speker, Jun 15, 2024 at 6:56 AM
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    A tackle for the ball almost always involves lunging in to varying degrees .Reckless should not be tolerated tho at times contact can be accidental.

    One of the most important things tho , however they decide to implement their laws is to be consistent when officiating. Players and fans can accept even laws they disagree with just as long as its the same for both sides and consistent in every game.
     
  24. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

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    Doku didn't lunge in at all, is my point; even as a joke it's just not a very good point of comparison for what those guidelines are about. But I dunno, maybe if Doku challenge happened in UEFA competition it would have been given. Prem are more relaxed on those sorts of decisions (pens, handballs, and reds).

    Switzerland's first goal vs Hungary required VAR, linesperson incorrectly flagged it as offside even though it wasn't that close. Thanks again VAR. :thumbsup:
     
  25. speker

    speker Member+

    May 16, 2009
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    Of course he didn't lunge. You cannot lunge at chest height. Doku simply had his boot raised too high which certainly would meet the Uefa refs chief's defintion of a VAR red card.

    the UEFA referees' chief made it clear that any challenge off the floor with contact above the boot should be a VAR red card.
     
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