PBP: P01135809 Trump Espionage, Coup, Conspiracy, Racketeering, Fraud & Obstruction Trial Thread

So, it sounds like today's hearing in the Florida case turned into a sh*tshow with Nauta's lawyer, Stanley Woodward, claiming that the DoJ threatened to influence a judgeship nomination if the lawyer did not pressure Nauta to flip on Trump. The DoJ, of course, denied it and the lawyers started yelling, "Did too!" "Nuh-uh! Did not!" at each other until Cannon finally stepped in and told them to knock it off. The meeting was not recorded and Woodward had no witnesses or evidence to support his claim other than he had been recommended for a judgeship and wasn't a judge now.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/22/politics/trump-documents-case-judge-cannon-hearing/index.html

 

I am having trouble with the incompetent argument(not that she isn’t…but as an explanation of the totality of her behavior). Duke undergrad* and Michigan law. She ain’t dumb.

Shes privy to all the discovery…sealed and unsealed…redacted and un redacted. She knows how much worse it is than what is already public. She’s either naive or corrupt. The fact that she’s seen all that and still “leans” Trump is pretty telling IMHO. My take is she’s corrupt…and doing everything she can do delay….and do it in a manner that isn’t so overt that she gets kicked off the case. See your CIPA comment. While the process technicalities may be complex….the basic concept isn’t.

 

I have no idea where to put this but I know it doesn't belong in the tweet thread.

Soooooo.... does Alito have an ex-wife, sister, daughter or another female in the family he can throw under the bus? I assume the NYT did their due diligence and verified the photo and locale.

I wonder what BS excuse he is going to invent about his neighbor to justify putting this up.

Another Provocative Flag Was Flown at Another Alito Home - The justice’s beach house displayed an “Appeal to Heaven” flag, a symbol carried on Jan. 6 and associated with a push for a more Christian-minded government.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/22/us/justice-alito-flag-appeal-to-heaven.html

I am pretty sure I have seen this flag sometime in the last few years. The reason I know this was because the first thing I thought was "Hmmm Maine transplant?" but the wording threw me off. I knew it wasn't an old Maine state flag, but I didn't know what it was

 

I don’t know where to put this either….but speaking of flags…one of the biggest things that pisses me off over the last decade is the co-opting of patriotism by the fascist (I realize that’s a bit naive). I remember back in the day donating for the BAF. I also remember quire fondly when the rattler flag first appeared at US games. The fact that both have rapidly become symbols for the growing American fascist movement really enrages me. I really want to take patriotism back from these assholes.

 

Oh for…so, so predictable. Next you’ll tell me she dated Stephen Mller while she was there, just like Dinesh and Coulter or Ingraham at Dartmouth.

 

I am no dodgy of using companies like patriot lawn care and American Glass. Wild right?

 

I'm loving watching the MAGA crowd have a conniption fit because some d-bag on Twitter is making a federal case (no pun intended) out of the fact that the FBI was "authorized to use deadly force" when they went to MAL.

That's like finding out your prescription for sleeping pills says "make make you drowsy" and deciding it's a plot to brainwash you into sleeping. I thought all these law and order types were all for cops having qualified immunity and being able to smoke people at will because, you know, freedom.

What a bunch of pathetic morons.

 

That * was actually meant for you….but I forgot to add the comment.

 

I’m not either. But it’s fascinating to watch how quickly the other side abandons the shouldn’t have resisted argument.

 

I'm not quite sure where you get the idea that I have "long approved of casual violence" -- I'd first like you to define what you mean by casual violence. Do you mean I'm okay with people punching random people on the sidewalk?

Maybe it was the multiple times I have opined that if Trump goes full Hitler, the gloves are off? Because that is not "casual violence." It's full-on hard core violence to defend this country from a dictator.

 

There was nothing casual about Bennie's demise.

 

Didn't everyone learn during BLM that the fascists don't mind police violence, so long as it's against those uppity minorities and race traitor whites?

 

I think I also posted the Ceausescu's getting their just desserts. Nothing casual about that. And I have never "called" for violence, though I have certainly posted about when I think it might be justified to overthrow a dictator. Maybe in your mind, even in those circumstances, violence is not justified. I respect your opinion.

I like to think that faced with living under a regime run by someone like Mussolini, Ceausescu, or Hitler I'd be on the side of those trying to do something about it. YMMV.

 

Naivety is only an explanation if you assume her actions and decisions are made in good faith. I assume the opposite.

 

Good call: she got this job as a form of patronage to reward her for her dedication as a GOP party hack. THAT is her career, and not the law. The law is a means to an end for her.

 

TPM found dozens of instances where trump’s attorneys asked questions designed to elicit praise for Trump.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/big-huge-golf-how-trumps-lawyers-used-the-trial-to-flatter-him

 

An aggrandized Trump is more likely to pay his legal bills.

 

Now this I can accept….though I’d still say this….it’s possible she doesn’t want to tank the prosecution. She merely wants to drag it out until past the election…as when he is “elected”…this trial won’t matter.

 

Her desire for plausible deniability for being a Trump hack who is throwing the trial to protect him is not really plausible.