Houston Dynamo v. FC Dallas, Saturday, May 18

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Poll closed May 19, 2024.
  1. Dynamo win

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  2. Dynamo tie

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  3. Dynamo lose

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  4. I've got a bad, bad feeling.

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  1. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Who: Houston Dynamo v. FC Dallas
    When: Saturday, May 18 @ 7:30 pm CDT
    Where: Shell Energy Stadium; Houston, TX
    Records: FC Dallas (3-6-2), 12th, MLS West
    Houston Dynamo (5-5-2), 8th, MLS West
    TV: Apple TV
    Radio: Local Stream via Apple(English)/93.3 (Spanish)

    This is the 13th regular season game of 2024 for Houston and the 12th for Dallas. You need a subscription to MLS Season Pass to watch this game.

    Houston lost up in Frisco, 2-0, on April 27. The last time FCD came to Houston was a 0-0 draw in September of 2023. This will conclude the season series between the teams.

    Houston needs to win by at least 3 goals to recapture El Capitan. Any other result would likely keep the cannon in Frisco. This game counts in the 2024 Copa Tejas standings.

    Dallas is 2-2-1 in their last 5 league games, scoring 6 goals and allowing 6. Their most recent league game was a home win, 2-1, against Austin on May 11. FCD is 0-4-1 in away regular season league games this year. They next travel to Tampa Bay Rowdies (USL-C) in the Open Cup on Wednesday, May 22, before hosting RSL on May 25.

    The Dynamo are 1-3-1 in the last 5 league games scoring 2 goals and allowing 5. Houston is 2-2-2 in home league games so far this year.

    The Dynamo next travel to LA Galaxy on May 25, return home to host Colorado on Wednesday, May 29, and then travel to Portland on Saturday, June 1.
     
  2. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Dallas @ Dynamo, all-time:

    05/06/06 HOU 4-3 FCD
    08/12/06 HOU 1-0 FCD
    08/23/06 HOU 3-0 FCD, U.S. Open Cup
    06/03/07 HOU 2-1 FCD
    08/19/07 HOU 1-0 FCD
    11/02/07 HOU 4-1 FCD (a.e.t.), MLS Playoffs
    04/06/08 HOU 3-3 FCD
    06/26/08 HOU 1-1 FCD
    05/09/09 HOU 1-0 FCD
    05/05/10 HOU 0-1 FCD
    05/28/11 HOU 2-2 FCD
    06/16/12 HOU 2-1 FCD
    04/05/14 HOU 1-4 FCD
    06/24/14 HOU 2-3 FCD (a.e.t.), U.S. Open Cup
    05/01/15 HOU 1-4 FCD
    03/12/16 HOU 5-0 FCD
    07/20/16 HOU 0-1 FCD, U.S. Open Cup
    08/27/16 HOU 1-3 FCD
    06/23/17 HOU 1-1 FCD
    07/21/18 HOU 1-1 FCD
    08/23/18 HOU 1-1 FCD
    05/04/19 HOU 2-1 FCD
    08/21/20 HOU 0-0 FCD
    10/07/20 HOU 2-0 FCD
    08/21/21 HOU 2-2 FCD
    09/18/21 HOU 3-2 FCD
    07/09/22 HOU 2-2 FCD
    09/30/23 HOU 0-0 FCD

    That's 12-6-10 with 48 goals scored and 38 allowed.

    Home and away there have been 53 games between the teams, 2nd most, trailing only games with Kansas City.
     
  3. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    El Capitán standings, 8-10:

    2006: HOU 2-1-1
    2007: HOU 3-0-1

    2008: FCD 0-0-3 (away goals 4-2)
    2009: HOU 2-1-0
    2010: FCD 1-0-1
    2011: HOU 1-0-1
    2012: HOU 1-0-0

    2013: FCD 1-0-0
    2014: FCD 1-0-0
    2015: FCD 3-0-0
    2016 HOU 1-1-1 (g.d. +3)
    2017 HOU 0-0-3 (holder retains)

    2018 FCD 1-0-2
    2019 FCD 1-1-0 (g.d. +4)
    2020 FCD 2-1-1
    2021 HOU 1-0-2
    2022 FCD 1-0-1
    2023 FCD 0-0-2 (holder retains)

    Current El Capitán criteria:

    1. Head-to-head regular season series (W-L-T)
    2. Head-to-head goal differential in regular season series
    3. Result of MLS playoff series (if applicable)
    4. Result of CONCACAF Champions League series (if applicable)
    5. Result of Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup match (if applicable)
    6. Holder retains trophy
     
  4. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    2024 Copa Tejas D1 standings:

    This year they are using PPG to correct for the schedule imbalance:
    1. Austin 4 g.p. 9 pts 2.0 PPG
    2. Dallas 3 g.p. 6 pts 2.0 PPG
    3. Houston 3 g.p. 0 pts 0.0 PPG

    Remaining games:
    5/18/24 - HOU v. FCD
    7/17/24 - FCD v. AUS
    9/21/24 - AUS v. HOU

    Previous Winners
    2021: Dallas
    2022: Austin
    2023: Austin

    2024 Copa Shield Standings (thru May 15):

    This is based on regular season results:

    1. Austin FC 13 g.p. 1.46 ppg
    2. Houston Dynamo 12 g.p. 1.42 ppg
    3. San Antonio 10 g.p. 1.40 ppg
    4. FC Dallas 11 g.p. 1.00 ppg
    5. Houston Dash 9 g.p. 1.00 ppg
    6. El Paso Locomotive 10 g.p. 0.50 ppg

    Previous Winners
    2019: Austin Bold
    2021: El Paso Locomotive
    2022: San Antonio
    2023: San Antonio
     
  5. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    GET F'N STUCK IN BOYS!!!!!!!

    Dale Dynamo!!!
     
  6. 7seven7

    7seven7 Member+

    May 5, 2008
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    this is a must win
     
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  7. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
    Fwiw a draw would still have them on pace with last year’s team
     
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  8. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes.
    However, that was when our team actually scored goals!
     
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  9. 7seven7

    7seven7 Member+

    May 5, 2008
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    bingo
     
  10. 7seven7

    7seven7 Member+

    May 5, 2008
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Frisco has severely underperformed so far this year based on their talent level. They are absolutely looking to today's match as a way to get well and jump start their summer. Winning here against their rival would do wonders for them and they want this one.

    We want this one too. Not to just jump start the middle of the season, but to actually keep us out of panic mode and swimming with the bottom dwellers of the league. We are actually (or near actually) the worst scoring team in the league but we can't act like that today. Yet another zero goal game from us will yield some deserved outrage from the fan base.

    Lets hope the team plays above it's talent level and respects their home field.
     
  11. repin1836

    repin1836 Member

    Jan 26, 2006
    Houston
    Points dropped... Really frustrating.

    That being said, how did Dallas get 6 subs with 4 breaks and I saw no medical attention to warrant a head injury? We had 5 subs with a head injury and our reserves sat down after the 5th. I'm seriously confused with this.
     
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  12. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    With a home record like ours, were destined for great things.

    What a frustrating season so far.
     
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  13. DynamoManiac

    DynamoManiac Member+

    Jan 27, 2014
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Injury to a keeper results in an extra window for both teams. Lucky for us as we used that extra window to sub off an injured Gaines.
     
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  14. 7seven7

    7seven7 Member+

    May 5, 2008
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    trash again

    trash ass performance from trash ass players. The whole top line is trash. Coco's lazy stupid decision making directly leading to a goal is trash. Ben's dumb a^s "possession is the most important thing" philosophy is trash.

    to top it all off, Ol Ben deciding to sub HH off might be the ruin of the locker room. you lose HH, you lose the team. I've NEVER seen a player take his captain band off and throw it to the ground before. NEVER. This can't be waved away as "passion" or "desire". This is Ol Ben not communicating with the one player on the team that is worth a sh^t ahead of time that he may sub him out or communicate during the game that he might make that decision. HH was gutted and embarrassed by his coach. I'm sure everyone will say all the right things in front of the camera, but this season is coming apart at the seams & it's taking arguably the most talented player to wear orange down with it. And why the sub at minute 83?? To put in some stork legged journeyman who couldn't make it 5 minutes.

    Trash
     
  15. DynamoManiac

    DynamoManiac Member+

    Jan 27, 2014
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    The Dynamo have been steadily bringing HH up to match fitness. He has clearly been on a minute count and I guarantee you he was aware that he would be subbed off at a certain point in this game. That doesn't mean that a competitive player doesn't get frustrated when he's coming out in a 1-1 game. There's science behind this stuff, though, so whether he likes it or not that's what happens to minimize the risk of re-injury.
     
  16. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We actually score right before halftime!
    The mentality in the locker room thus must be "all together boys, let's see the second half out, focus on securing a home win against our eternal rival"
    Then Coco goes and wants to get cute. Cute inside his own defensive third!!! Bobo!
    Team drops points at home.
     
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  17. 7seven7

    7seven7 Member+

    May 5, 2008
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    you gurantee it? how? what kind of sub plan involves a subbing off at the 83rd minute??? so HH was fit enough to play 80 but couldn't go another 10? A player showing up the coach and throwing away his captains band is science?

    nah
     
  18. DynamoManiac

    DynamoManiac Member+

    Jan 27, 2014
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    It would have been another 20. I can guarantee it because a) I've watched how they have managed his minutes since his return, b) I've spent time around teams and have known players coming back from injury. The minute count is meticulously planned in building a player back up and it's communicated with the player. Again, it doesn't mean the player likes it but sometimes you have to protect the player from themselves. You say "what's another 10 minutes plus stoppage time when a player has gone 80 minutes?". That's exactly the stretch when a player returning from a serious leg injury is most likely to experience re-injury and I'm sure if that happened you'd be screaming about the idiots who overused him and caused re-injury.
     
  19. OnceAggie

    OnceAggie Member

    Apr 23, 2016
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    whats up with Dyanamo FO allowing FC Dallas to bring their band I was in that section in the first half was ringing in my ear thank god I moved second...freaking amateur hour where else in world football does that happen??
     
  20. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yup.
    There is traditional seating for this sport. An away section tucked in a corner or upper deck section. It really is a global standard of etiquette. Invision Celtic hosting Rangers or River Plate hosting Boca Boca Juniors, there is traditionally an away section that home team fans and supporters are a good distance from or if a big derby match, set aside to allow both sets of fans n supporters to be safe.
    We had this in place at our old Rob days, not so much now.
     
  21. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    in the 15-22 period the primary problem was defense, it generally became uncompetitive as many nights we shipped 2 or more. olsen has stabilized that with scheme such that the team now has an average defense and with that hovers around the line on its own. but folks on here per usual overrated the individuals composing it, advocated their being kept around, and so the defense is just mediocre, not excellent like say cincy with miazga and robinson. to rise further you need a good defense or a good offense. right now we have neither. i have advocated make the defense excellent as we have no seeming interest in keeping up with the joneses in LA or miami or whoever the spender that year is. it negates their offenses and gives us a chance to win it all. but to do that it needs to be not just statistically ok but under a goal a game. right now we allow a goal a game which means the offense has to score 2 to win. we don't have the offense for that at this point.

    our hopeful colleague compares this year to last. he forgets this sharply pivoted in the summer, with HH and baird having career years. baird then left. people were blase about it or had self-serving cap excuses. but the last thing a minor miracle of a team needs is less miracle to play with. last year was fairly miraculous, greater than the sum of the seeming parts. anyone with a brain knows not to stand pat on a team that outperforms what the roster said it should have done. but they did anyway. the signings have been largely developmental kids or sub level. we needed rearming on offense; so we brought in a DM and kids. they didn't make the decision on sebas. if the defense is going to be merely mediocre, then the offense needs to be exceelent, more like 17 or last season to overcome the leakage. otherwise, 1-1, 0-0, 1-0, middling, par for the course.
     
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  22. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    the questions are, are we cap-locked and just playing out this season to get past it, or can we make moves.

    and, are we stuck as team continuity or are we willing to shift around some surplus to push this up the standings a little. trade an excess vet, see if we can get some offense in. or see about upgrading the defense. surely we can do something like for like on salary.

    i will repeat myself that they need to make the hard decisions on HH and sebas. HH can't stay healthy long enough to make this more than a blip. sebas hogs a DP and can't do what we want in this offense. but we tend to resist such hard decisions which is why 2017 or 2023 becomes an outlier. we double down and double down on age. it's a bad bet. ching, etc.

    our postseasons are isolated because we don't spend money, don't make sure the defense is solid, and emotionally hold onto anything that briefly works. we lack the guts to say, ok, i can build around you, you, and you over there, but you're getting old -- even if you were MVP a year ago -- and i can do better than you or you. so we plateau at modest elevation then slip back down.
     
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  23. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
    I’d really like to take your analysis seriously but you get the most basic information wrong. You vault Cincy up like they’re doing something defensively way above what we are but the Dynamo have only conceded **two** more goals this year than Cincy has. The Dynamo are tied for 2nd in goals conceded and tied for 3rd in goals conceded per 90. They have an elite defense as far as I’m concerned.

    I do agree that they need to figure out the DP situation. Sebas should have been gone yesterday. HH has an option on his contract we’ll see what happens there. In a Saturday chalk talk Asher said the team is searching for a 26-29 y/o striker to sign as a DP in the summer. Also looking to fill the other two U22 spots with attacking players. The team has the 9th highest salary bill in MLS also so the idea that they don’t spend money is not relevant anymore.
     
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  24. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rep for not writing a novel for all of us to read while at work Juve!
     
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  25. 7seven7

    7seven7 Member+

    May 5, 2008
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the D is more than adequate for us to be successful in the league. Especially if we ever get Escobar back.

    It's the trash offense that has, and will continue to let us down until the entire front line is replaced.
     
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