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  1. 73Bruin

    73Bruin Member+

    Galaxy
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    Jul 12, 2008
    Torrance, California
    #1301 73Bruin, May 9, 2024
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    Without disagreeing with the point that Pec is very left footed, I disagree about Nouhiu and your expectations about beating him to the end line and putting in a cross. I simply don't remember many wingers beating him very often whether they were a DP or not. Paintsil did when he had a running start, but I don't think that he did from a standstill. Look at Mo Salah's stats against Nouhou in the 2022 AFCON (from MLS.com):

    Mo Salah v. Cameroon (120 mins):

    • 0 successful dribbles
    • 0 key passes
    • 0 shots on target
    • 0 chances created
    • 0 accurate crosses
    • 0 accurate long balls
    • 5 fouls
    • 6x fouled
    • 60% passing (12/20)
     
  2. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Our home game win vs. Seattle was one of the few times it felt to me that a team (in that case Painstil primarily) got the better of Nouhiu. That guy is such a great player. Wasn't surprised at all to see him play much much better against us last weekend.
     
  3. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder if Pec saw that match or is generally familiar with Nouhou's game?

    I get what you're saying. I meant hypothetically. He may not beat Nouhou specifically, but he can't even try because he can't play on his right.
     
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  4. 73Bruin

    73Bruin Member+

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    Jul 12, 2008
    Torrance, California
    I agree that if we are talking about the average MLS left fullback, then it's not unreasonable to expect a DP right winger to be able to beat the full back at least some of the time and put in an effective cross when he gets free. If he can't do that because he is too left-footed, then he shouldn't be playing right wing on more than an occasional spot basis.

    Per Transfermarkt Pec played right wing in for the majority of the starts he had with Vasco da Gama, so I am guessing that he came to the Galaxy wanting to be on the right.
     
  5. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
  6. MPNumber9

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    Oct 10, 2010
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
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  7. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Think how many of those appearances were 5-15 minute late subs. Very impressive I bet if looked at on on a per minute basis.
     
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  8. Benny Dargle

    Benny Dargle Member+

    Jul 23, 2008
    LA
    The MLSPA salary guide for 2024 is out today

    https://mlsplayers.org/resources/salary-guide

    Garces counts as $200K (U22)
    Zavaleta ($89.716) makes only a little more than Bibout, Lepley, Vivi ($71,401) and the same as Brady Scott.
    Yamane is at $550K
    McCarthy is at $275K and Micovic is stealing money at $150K
    Neal is underpaid at $165K and Ferkranus is overpaid at $165K
    Berry is at $175,008, which sounds high until you realize Jonathan Perez and John Nelson are both making $275K
     
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  9. Dawdler

    Dawdler Member+

    Apr 2, 2005
    Los Angeles,CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    it really makes me think, what's going on with the organization and what exactly is the disconnect between the higher ups and the staff in the trenches.

    the salary discrepancies between player who are first team regulars and first team fringe players is surprising, are scouts finding players as instructed by the FO and not aligning with the coaches philosophy or is the FO mandate is to find the best possible talent and throw everything against the wall and see what sticks with the coaching staff, either way this is not a productive way of doing things and definitely not a way to build a winning cutlure.

    I do understand that scouting is a crap shoot but when you operate in such a restrictive league, you can't afford to make a lot of talent miscalculations or financial blunders.
     
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  10. Benny Dargle

    Benny Dargle Member+

    Jul 23, 2008
    LA
    Some of those discrepancies are the result of contracts signed under different front offices. Others are because they were signed to contracts at different ages and under different circumstances. For example, Neal and Ferkranus are both still operating under the contracts (plus options) they signed when they were in the Academy and were viewed at least nominally as on the same level. Perez was also signed while in the Academy, but he had options in Mexico and perhaps elsewhere that drove up his price. My guess is that they would have signed Neal to a new contract if he had pushed for one last year, but they would have likely required him to agree to an extension, which he might not have been willing to give up then.
     
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  11. 73Bruin

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    Jul 12, 2008
    Torrance, California
    #1311 73Bruin, May 16, 2024
    Last edited: May 16, 2024
    Can you please give us an example of this salary discrepancy so I can understand your point more. I just don't see it on the current roster given both the weirdness that U22, DP and TAM contracts cause and given Benny's point above. Especially if you compare it on a class of position basis.
     
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  12. TrickHog

    TrickHog Moderator
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    Oct 14, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah I've gotta say that our salaries line up much better now than they have in many many years. Still not perfect, but getting better.

    For those wondering, Boyd is on $775k at Nashville. So we would have had to pony up $500k to keep him here - or almost the entire salary of Miki Yamane. Boyd has 0g and 2a through 9 games this year, FYI...
     
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  13. Dawdler

    Dawdler Member+

    Apr 2, 2005
    Los Angeles,CA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    got it! thank you for the explanation and for the clarification of things I wasn't too sure of, always appreciated
     
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  14. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  15. TrickHog

    TrickHog Moderator
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    Oct 14, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    He's spending more on transfer fees and less on salary - and also now has several players who have value on the international market that might actually turn a profit on those transfer fees. Very smart fella.

    (Puig, Pec, Neal, Garces -- could all possibly command big transfer fees relative to what it cost us to get them, in the years to come. I'd say Cerrillo, Paintsil and Dejan could also get decent transfer fees as well.)
     
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  16. 73Bruin

    73Bruin Member+

    Galaxy
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    Jul 12, 2008
    Torrance, California
    While I agree with you, I hate the Galaxy being a feeder team as it is a continual rebuilding cycle. I am not sure that a team doing that can ever aspire to more than occasional success when the stars aline (as measured by silverware). LAFC and Atlanta (the first teams to really do this) and won only 2 MLS cups between them.
     
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  17. TrickHog

    TrickHog Moderator
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    Oct 14, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    While I agree, I think at least for now, the only way MLS teams can afford to sign big players AND be a team that turns a decent profit is to make sure you sign players who you can sell if bigger clubs come with too big to turn down offers....
     
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  18. Dawdler

    Dawdler Member+

    Apr 2, 2005
    Los Angeles,CA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    the reality of the situation is unless you're one of the big European leagues, you are going to be a feeder league and I know I keep harping on it but the way that MLS is structured, the MLS is fortunate to even be considered a feeder league and I think its quite an accomplishment for a league this young to go from an afterthought in the soccer/football world to a growing feeder league.

    I'm sure MLS will eventually grow to be a top tier league, competing with Euro leagues but it won't be during my lifetime.
     
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  19. 73Bruin

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    Torrance, California
    While you are probably correct, given the current roster rules, I believe that teams that developed and kept their academy talent could have significant success. It would require a rule change to take homegrown players completely off of their rosters salary cap.

    Imagine FC Dallas with Weston McKennie, Ricardo Pepi, Chris Richards, Alex Zendejas and Reggie Cannon on their current squad. Imagine how much more attractive soccer would be if homegrown players could aspire to NFL like salaries.
     
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  20. TrickHog

    TrickHog Moderator
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    Oct 14, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Very true.
     
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  21. MPNumber9

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    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think you have to take advantage of being in a big market and having a history of signing globally-recognized names. We're the club that brought David Beckham to MLS. You can't let that kind of capital slip away, especially not when Miami and LAFC are proving that you can get globally-recognized players that can have an impact in the league.

    This is not at odds with developing and selling players. I want us to do that, too. I want us to do both. The Galaxy should literally be trailblazers in every aspect.
     
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  22. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    I was in agreement with that quoted post btw (it didn't seem that way when I read it back). I forgot to add the part that I agree, you have to balance being a selling club and a destination club.
     
  23. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Hard to fathom how we’d pull that off but Bogert is amongst the most reliable reporters so…

    SHRUG
     
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  24. Dawdler

    Dawdler Member+

    Apr 2, 2005
    Los Angeles,CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    all I see is another plus for Skydog, to root for his home state team :D
     
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  25. Beirut

    Beirut Member+

    Feb 3, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Not sure if Reus is a need. Seems like he’d be a great locker room guy!

    I want to hear that we’re after Real Madrid’s soon to be free agent, and open to MLS, defender, Nacho.

    Nacho would make us instant contenders. Great defender, leader, and person. Maybe Puig can make a call?
     
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