The Liberal and Conservative "Debate" on Terrorism

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Ian McCracken, Oct 21, 2002.

  1. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
    Club:
    SS Lazio Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    The Difference Between The Liberal and Conservative "Debate" Over The War On Terrorism:

    Question: You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner and is running at you while screaming obscenities. In your hand is a .357 Magnum and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?

    Liberal Answer:

    Well that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that's inspiring him to attack? Could we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me? If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me? This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion.


    Conservative Answer:

    Shoot him.
     
  2. joseph pakovits

    joseph pakovits New Member

    Apr 29, 1999
    fly-over country
    I don't know whether to laugh or to cry. Not one of your better efforts, Ian.
     
  3. Smiley321

    Smiley321 Member

    Apr 21, 2002
    Concord, Ca
    Yes It Is

    Keep up the good work, Ian
     
  4. Daniel le Rouge

    Daniel le Rouge New Member

    Oct 3, 2002
    under a bridge
    Oh, I don't know--I think the proper answer depends on the conservative.

    For many conservatives I've met, the appropriate answer is:

    Blow your own male member off while trying to draw the gun from your pants, thus saving the terrorist with the knife the bother of having to stab you.
     
  5. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    The correct answer:

    By actually listening to the obsenities, I learn that he is unhappy with the tomato cutting ability of the knife and wants to return it at the Macy's behind me. I let him pass.
     
  6. LoveFifa

    LoveFifa New Member

    Apr 23, 2001
    Detroit, Michigan
    What if the obsenities are in a foreign language?

    Oh what does it matter? Blast the ************er.
     
  7. monop_poly

    monop_poly Member

    May 17, 2002
    Chicago
    Many male conservatives don't have a member. That's a fact. Thus, the need for an overcompensating gun.
     
  8. Auhguy

    Auhguy New Member

    Oct 25, 2001


    a slight correction,

    shoot him, then set off a bomb in his neighbourhood in order to kill the main guy behind the attack, doesnt matter if a hundred innocent people are killed. Oh and the evidence linking this main bad guy to the attack is very convincing and would not leave a shadow of a doubt in anyone (nevertheless no one may has the right to see this "incriminating" evidence)
    after that go to another neighborhood, and identify another bad guy as a threat to his family, and start making plans to blast off his neighborhood also (this bad guy lives in another state but thats irrelevant.)
    It is only because the poor dad could not find the main guy behind the first attack that he needs another bad guy.
    He has to do this to boost his image in front of his wife, as she was getting ready to file a divorce as his income kept getting smaller and smaller. this did not prevent him from "bailing" out some of his rich friends from some trouble they fell into. But the new bad guy has diverted the attention away from all that.
     
  9. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    If all drugs were legal, Ian could medicate himself properly without fear of jail time.
     
  10. eneste

    eneste Member

    Mar 24, 2000
    Pittsburgh, PA
    I haven't laughed out loud reading BigSoccer in awhile.
     
  11. Ted Cikowski

    Ted Cikowski Red Card

    May 31, 2000

    let us know when you do.
     
  12. photar74

    photar74 New Member

    Jun 25, 2002
    West Philly
    This is a pretty good example, because like most Americans, after filming an episode of Ozzie and Harriet, my family and I always take walks down deserted streets in the knife-wielding maniac section of town while packing heat.

    Anyway, no. The real difference between conservatives and others is that many conservatives actually believe that crimes such as this are typical and represent a significant portion of all crime in this this country. On the other hand, those who say they wouldn't shoot him say so because they know that crimes of this sort are around 0.00000001% of all crime in this country, and don't bother considering such ridiculous examples when it comes to policy debates.

    Out of curiosity Ian:

    A) In how many other situations do you make certain to have your hand on a 357 magnum

    and

    B) What would you do if Kitty Dukakis were raped and murdered?
     
  13. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Ian,

    Shouldn't you be asking for a tax cut as incentive to shoot the mugger?
     
  14. eneste

    eneste Member

    Mar 24, 2000
    Pittsburgh, PA
    With the increasing frequency that you post, Ted, I wouldn't hold my breath.
     
  15. LoveFifa

    LoveFifa New Member

    Apr 23, 2001
    Detroit, Michigan
    Well, it would be one less bum on welfare.
     
  16. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan PLANITARCHIS' BANE

    Paris Saint Germain
    United States
    Apr 8, 2002
    Baltimore
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes you're right, because in 2000, relative to the net cost of our military - 397.3 billion dollars - we spent so damn much on education, training, employment, and social services...

    How much?

    an underwhelming 53.3 billion...
    http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cach...+social+programs+cost+billions&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

    WAKE THE FUCK UP!
     
  17. LoveFifa

    LoveFifa New Member

    Apr 23, 2001
    Detroit, Michigan
    So your calling military members bums. Nice.
     
  18. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan PLANITARCHIS' BANE

    Paris Saint Germain
    United States
    Apr 8, 2002
    Baltimore
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From where you stand, you have no idea how galactically stupid that statement is...

    I'm calling to task your shoot-a-bum solution in the light of the fact that we spend no money on our "bums," particularly relative to the $$$ we spend on killing platforms...

    Like I've said here before, I've taken an oath and stood a post in this nation's military; I saw first-hand how we don't need to spend that much money...
     
  19. LoveFifa

    LoveFifa New Member

    Apr 23, 2001
    Detroit, Michigan
    Well I'm glad you enjoyed living near the poverty level while putting you life at risk. That makes one of us. But don't you dare lecture me about what we sacrifice as military members to guarentee the protection and safety of this great nation. I, for one, am glad that someone of your ilk no longer serves. Good ridance.

    And when the bums are ready to help themselves, then the government is there to more than help them. I'm sure they didn't get to their miserable state by busting their asses working.
     
  20. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
    Club:
    SS Lazio Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    The only one who needs to wake up is someone who would compare the costs of apples (military) to oranges (social services/education).
     
  21. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Or to use a more basic economic example,
    guns vs. butter.
     
  22. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Of course, you are excluding social security and medicare as well as state spending.

    It's not an either or situation. We have the means to increase social spending without harming the military. Some spending, like for national health insurance, would save money in the long run.

    What we can't do is keep giving tax breaks for the top .5% and make necessary social investments.

    It's not guns or butter. It's yachts or butter.
     
  23. wu-tang beez

    wu-tang beez New Member

    Apr 19, 2002
    Irving, TX
    Boy! LOL that is mike sogreasy funny.


    btw, having to watch the Open Cup on tape delay because FSWe showed the world series game 5 instead really sucks.
     

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