Holes in the team

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by JD=SuperStar, Feb 6, 2005.

  1. JD=SuperStar

    JD=SuperStar New Member

    Dec 31, 2004
    Australia
    With the holes in our team being.

    Right Back
    Central Defender
    Right-Sided Midfielder.........................

    Who does everyone think we will get realisticly?

    When is the next time we can start buying players?

    I know we were linked to glen johnson at one stage, then SWP, Beckham etc.... but who will we get.

    The deal we made for SWP i believe wasnt good enough. What was it again........5mill pounds and Robbie Keane for SWP? We need to make a better offer.

    Who's a good CD, we have been linked with until Davenport, Dawson etc..... come through the ranks?

    Cheers,
    JD.
     
  2. Malkamus

    Malkamus New Member

    Jan 24, 2002
    I think it was reported as 10mil plus Robbie. I think the Citeh management will be rightfully lynched by their supporters if they sell SWP for anything less than a massive amount plus him asking to leave.
     
  3. jahmerican

    jahmerican New Member

    Jul 29, 2004
    Hawaii
    anyone think dawson can fill the void of the other center back so we dont have to get another one?
     
  4. PoshSpur

    PoshSpur New Member

    Jan 28, 2005
    New York
    We only need a right back and right winger. We will probably go for a dutch player for the RB position (don't know who, but with Jol & Arnesen, he'll probably be Dutch). As for the right-wing position, I have heard from some close sources of mine who work at the club that we will definitely buy SWP for 7 million with Simon Davies, Michael Brown & Robbie Keane going in the opposite direction.

    FIFA rules state that players are allowed to freely move to other clubs come the 1st of July.
     
  5. jumhed

    jumhed Member+

    Mar 26, 2001
    London
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Simon Davies, Brown, and Robbie Keane?!?! That's demented!
     
  6. DigitalTron

    DigitalTron New Member

    Apr 4, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    I wholeheartedly agree. I've been a SWP fan for a while now, and his development over the last few years has been great to watch, but that's just a ludicrous deal for Spurs.

    IMHO, Keane and Davies are extremely underrated by the people on this board. Davies I can understand to an extent, because he's been injured so often and before that wasn't at his best form. But I firmly believe that he's the most gifted midfielder we have, and simply because he's not English, people are quickly forgetting how good he really can be. Don't get me wrong, I like Carrick, Mendes, etc., and while Davies doesn't have Mendes' Portuguese mystique or Carrick's English heritage, Davies can change a game moreso than either of them.

    Keane is a tremendous player, and he makes those around him better. People focus on the missed chances, but they fail to realize just how many chances he generates both on and off the ball. It's not about what your shooting % is, it's about how many goals you cause when you're on the field. Keane scores and generates a lot of scoring opportunities and a lot of goals. Every year he's way up there as far as productivity is concerned. He may not have the most eye-opening goals; he may not score as many as Henry or Van Nistelrooy; and he may miss more than his share of makable shots; but in the end he scores lots of goals every year, and he is a very valuable striker. This isn't even mentioning his versatility and willingness to play defense or his accuracy passing. While he's been a feature player for quite a few years now, he's still a young player too.

    The price being asked for SWP is beyond ludicrous. I hope we didn't overpay for Reid, but I'm quite sure that this would be overpaying for SWP.

    -Digital
     
  7. sendorange

    sendorange Member+

    Jun 7, 2003
    Bigsoccer.com
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Are you kidding? There are not any rational Spurs fans who give a toss about Davies being Welsh, if you think that's a reason for the criticism towards him then you are totally mistaken. Also you are comparing a right sided attacking midfielder with the freedom to create and score to two central midfielders who are there to sit deep, make interceptions and pass the ball, two completely different roles and required attributes.

    The reason people question Davies future is that he has spent 2 years struggling with injuries and disappointing form, as he himself has recognised. Even then his best performances when fit and in form in a Tottenham shirt were reserved mainly for playing as a central attacking midfielder in Hod's 3-5-2. It's the same reason fans were not upset to see Anderton go, and Redknapp as well. If they are injury prone and not taking Tottenham forward, or if the club can do better, then off they should go and every fan will back that regardless of their nationality.

    Simon Davies has an opportunity to the end of the season to prove he has revived himself as a player and every fan will be happy if he does it. But there's little doubt even if he is retained that the club needs at least one more talented right winger, preferably one with the exceptional pace that Davies has never had.

    Keane is not a creative player. He plays with his head down far too much and he is not a player who generates clear chances for others or fulfills any kind of playmaking role. He is not quite a link forward and not quite a goalscoring striker. A very talented player in terms of scoring a decent number of great goals in a season, but he's not a great provider or a lethal finisher. He does not make others look better any more than our forwards, this is not backed up by the games he has played in and the resultant team performances and results.
     
  8. JD=SuperStar

    JD=SuperStar New Member

    Dec 31, 2004
    Australia
    I disagree, SWP is better than Davies, Brown and Keane.

    SWP is better than Davies and would start ahead of him anyway.
    SWP is better than Brown. We have Carrick, Mendes, Reid, Zeigler, Davis, Marney who IMO are better than Brown and should start ahead of him in the midfield.
    SWP is better than Keane. Keane is behind Defoe, and Mido at the moment, and when Kanoute is fit it would be hard not to go for him, instead of Robbie. We also have a very young Mounir el Hamdaoui, who scored on his devut in the reserves (as you all would know) and we need to improve the youth.

    Thats IMO.

    Go Spurs!
     
  9. jahmerican

    jahmerican New Member

    Jul 29, 2004
    Hawaii
    imo despite swp's inspirational form this season, it is insane to trade three good players for anyone, no matter who they are.
     
  10. JD=SuperStar

    JD=SuperStar New Member

    Dec 31, 2004
    Australia
    DISGAGREE!

    Sorry mate, but SWP is a gun! Keane, Davies get injured alot, and we have plenty of back-up for Brown. And we gain SWP who plays beautifully in the position that we need!!
     
  11. metropolis2k

    metropolis2k New Member

    Sep 7, 2004
    England
    As I've just said in the other thread. Those three players and that money for SWP is not a good deal. Man City would be coming out of the deal better off. What if SWP gets injured? That's 4 less players and we only have one little striker.

    And anyway, Brown is the hardest working player in the team at the moment, Keane has scored some very important goals (Brighton anyone?) and his quality is unquestionable and Davies is just getting back to his best and has looked superb again.
     
  12. Rambler

    Rambler New Member

    May 6, 2003
    I would love us to get SWP, I think wer should swap for 5 million plus Robbie Jackson. Who agrees ?

    On a serious note though, I would even take SWP with Brown, Mendes, Davis, Davies and Keane going in the other direction (plus a bit of cash if needed). I rate him that highly.

    But the sitaution will not arise. SWP is a shoe in for that lot who are in somthing of a crisis down the road. I know loyalty doesnt mean much these days, but once Wenger makes his affections known to WP then the race is over.
     
  13. THFC1

    THFC1 New Member

    Oct 2, 2004
    South East London
    We are trying to build a squad not let 3+ players leave for one & alot of money. Wright-Phillips is a great player but if we was to exchange someone it should only be one player not half the team.
     
  14. The Double

    The Double Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 11, 2002
    Denver
    Uh, Johnny is a galactico now.
     
  15. Rabbi Keane

    Rabbi Keane Member

    Aug 13, 2003
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Doubt that we'll pay the price mentioned on SWP, there are other options out there. Much more realistic to believe that Wayne Routledge will be at the Lane next season. He's out of contract in the summer, and will go for a small compensation set by a tribunal. Spurs have tried to sign him in the previous two transferwindows, and David Pleat even tried to sign him when the player was just 16 (Pleat tried to get both Routledge and Rooney at that time, while they still were youth players).

    He wouldn't be my first choice though,
    I'd prefer Daniel de Ridder from Ajax. Who we've also been linked with. He's a livewire out on the right wing. Amazing dribbling skills. Could picture him as the next David Ginola - both as a footballer and as a icon (he has the looks).

    The player signed a new contract with Ajax in december though, after long-term rumours that he was looking for a move. Still, he'd be much cheaper than SWP or even Wilhelmsson.
     
  16. jahmerican

    jahmerican New Member

    Jul 29, 2004
    Hawaii

    sounds good
     
  17. jahmerican

    jahmerican New Member

    Jul 29, 2004
    Hawaii
    what about casteleen?
    or bart goor?
    you think we could pick either of them up?
     
  18. THFC1

    THFC1 New Member

    Oct 2, 2004
    South East London
    Possibly Castelen, he is young & he impressed me against England. He played on the right for Holland but i think he is a left winger. But i dont think Bart Goor would be a good signing, he is coming up to 32 & we have better alternatives to him already at the club
     
  19. chriswalk27

    chriswalk27 New Member

    Dec 8, 2003
    Dalton Georgia
    SWP is out of our price range, Frank and Levy don't want any more high priced flops like Richards/Rebrov so this deal just isn't going to happen.

    I still think we should go after Wilhelmsson in the summer.

    Guy is quality and is versitile enough to play either wing which could come in handy with the amount of injuries our left side seems to produce.

    I thought we had him rated too low at 2.5 million or 3, can't remember but he is the right age, 24 or 25 something like that, can instantly produce down either flank and is an international for a pretty solid Sweeden team.

    Plus Edman will give him a mate here so he doesn't feel out of place. Ziegler could do in a pinch if Edman grows his hair back out they look just like each other. :)
     
  20. jahmerican

    jahmerican New Member

    Jul 29, 2004
    Hawaii
    within our grasp, a lot easier to get than swp
    top player
     
  21. Rabbi Keane

    Rabbi Keane Member

    Aug 13, 2003
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    We were supposed to sign Wilhelmsson, but Anderlecht decided to put a £8M price-tag on him. Which he is not worth!
     

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