I don't think mentality is an issue. The team has many elite players - you don't get to those levels with weak mental side. However there is much more to high performance than just that. e.g if the tactical system is not working, the communications internally are not great etc - then this can display on the pitch as disjointed performance. e.g where players are frustrated, don't understand their roles, don't trust team mates etc
On the topic of our defence, clearly prime Hummels & Boateng were better but I still think our current CB's are good enough to achieve more, I mean 4 of them including Thiaw performed well in the CL this season. It was only a few weeks ago Rudiger dominated Haaland, and both Schotterbeck and Sule had good seasons. Speaking of which, I'm not sure why Flick feels the need to drop and then publicly criticise Sule, what's going on there?
Completely agree. Even if germany doesn't have peak hummels/boateng they still have higher quality players to chose from than most sides
Another point to consider. When has a team whose philosophy is to bring total football ever succeed @ international level. Majority of success we had and others have had has been based around mid-low block with strong structure. I think Flick has to abandon this high line crap as margin for error is very tiny to get punished. Hence the three at the back system might be to make us more strong structurely.
Tbh, especially as host nation, there is no reason why we shouldn’t be contenders next year. I mean the last 2 winners, Portugal & Italy, didn’t exactly have teams that were that incredible. They relied primarily on good organisation and structure. SF should be the minimum aim, I don’t see many teams to be scared of.
Well, since the Löw era the opposing team opening the scoreline is usually all it takes to beat Germany nowadays, which was unthinkable before then, so there is a mentality issue.
Agree. Then again this last world cup and previous Euros where there was no standout team and we bottled it in the group stages! No doubt there's going to be hugh pressure in our group stage games which will be a test of mentality than anything else.
its more than this, no leaders on the field and yeah Neuer is garbage captain. Also there is 0 urgency with Germany, we play way way way too casual, lack of intensity. nevermind that this team doesn't really make much effort in things like duels and aeriels and lack of agression too. Rudiger himself said it that Germany is too nice when we should be more dicks, LOL. so all in all huge mentality and atittude issue.
hahaha that we bottle it when rest of teams are meh. maybe that's meant to be, tbh. I bet that once our promising next generation all breakthrough that at the same time the top teams around the world, also start to pan out better. Like we are only good when rest of Europe is also good which then will make winning trophies harder. lol. Italy for one could be on the rise at the same time as us for example. On track to win U20 WC with 2003 age group. Looking like interesting squad for U21. Some say that Italy, 2004-2006 also looking promising. its rare as frick for us to take advantage of a weak Italy.
I think you make good points but a lot of that stuff doesn't strike me as about individual mentality or effort Like how aggressive shall the team be - that is a tactical question Or take intensity. Kimmich is routinely playing at an elite level with Bayern and with high intensity. He doesn't suddenly lack intensity with germany because he has weak mentality Achieving high intensity with a team is quite difficult - tactics, motivation, communication, automatisms all have to be aligned. Kimmich can't just decide to be more intense
Portugal, imagine no extended Euro and they would have went out in GS and had bunch of PK shootouts too and ET to win. In 4 knockout matches, they had 3/4 ET, LOL. Italy essentially dragged itself to finals thanks to 2 Elite Old Man CBs, LOL. And Pengland being Pengland flopped in their best ever chance to win a trophy, LMAO, bottlers. I have seen some Penglish fans thinking Euro 2020 was their best ever chance to win a trophy and they might regret it down the line.
I do loathe than we are on equal standing as Spain, 1 win and they overtake us.....and then the obnoxious French are 1 win away from tying us and Spain. Italy too are 1 title away from tying us but they are our #1 Euro rival, bring it on!!! do wish the Netherlands would actually be a threat, LOL. 1 trophy in their entire history.....and always laugh when dfb were like the Netherlands youth are better yet where are the trophies in Senior NT???
its very unlikely we fail to get out of the group. -As Hosts of Euro 2024 we are gonna be in Pot A, so we are likely to avoid bigger countries -even 3rd place teams can get out of the group -Flick Stupidity is why we didn't get out of GS at 2022WC but in end it was super close we ended up in 3rd based on GD.
It’s not just Flick’s tactical failure but so called elite players not delivering in decisive moment is also a factor If Sane had scored against Spain in the last moment, Germany would have qualified for knockout round and would have gained a huge momentum if Sane had scored the 1:1 in then17th minute in the return leg against Man City, Bayern would have had a great chance of turning the tie
At least that's some consolation. Even by our recent standards it will be one major xxck up if we go out in group stages next year.
Kimmich is an overgrown manchild who can never position himself properly with Germany he lacks discipline and hence very questionable mentality. Guy leaves TONS of space open for other teams to exploit which then exposes our D. It was same for Kimmich at RB, advances soooo much that the entire right side is exposed.......he's a burden as of now on the team.
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Yep. He does over do it kimmich. Hence both Germany and Bayern have suffered because lack of discipline.