Germany to Host the UEFA Euro 2024

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  1. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
     
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  2. The Jitty Slitter

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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I hope Flick can settle on a core side but I guess that will be hard as usual post season
     
  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    how annoying, F.Nmecha who is injured and missing U21 Euro and Senior NT June matches is linked with Dortmund transfer.
     
  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    When we talk about the problem positions in German football, there has been talk of wingers and strikers for so long. But if we look at the past year: don't we really have another problem?
    "Yes, let's put it this way: midfield players who think defensively who ensure stability."

    "For example, if we look at Dortmund, it was the case that Emre Can in the second half was the stabilizer who thought defensively. This is a development that we also hoped for."
    "He has a good charisma, a good speed, a good physical presence. He can also be a leader."

    Isn't that the main knowledge of the World Cup that in the end, despite all the chances, the necessary stability was lacking?

    "When we talk about the World Cup, we would have to include a lot, but I don't want that anymore. Just so much: we didn't meet expectations."

    "We allowed too many chances – also because the stability on the defensive and against the ball was not there. For us this means: We have to change things – and at the same time work out trust again."

    "What does this mean specifically for the constellation in the center?
    If you look at the Squad for international matches against Ukraine, Poland and Colombia look at, see that we have nominated a large number of central defenders."

    "We'll play with a chain of three and a six in front of them. But as I said: the idea is to play actively and aggressively. We want to put the opponent under pressure, and we will always have at least six players in this system who think primarily aggressively."

    Who could still play the 6 next to Emre Can?
    "Joshua Kimmich, clear. But it could also be Goretzka. Or Felix Nmecha. He gave me total joy. It is fast, very good on the ball, can detach himself from pressure situations. It's a shame that he can't be there now because of injury."

    In any case, Joshua Kimmich sees you permanently in the middle?
    "Yes. You can see in Munich that he is one who has many solutions with ball, has an enormous passing quality, who can really play balls at the right pace. That is exactly what we need in this position."

    Do you also have the feeling that Kimmich can play well in the middle, but that he may lack the right side man in both Munich and the national team to complement him perfectly? Keyword: Stability.

    "I am convinced that he is really good in this position. Half a year ago, Jo was a world class 6, and now we're questioning him?"

    Joshua Kimmich said victories will be victories again. There were too few of them. A pattern was also striking. Even if it went well, like 3: 3 in England, you had the feeling: a little resistance, and everything collapses. Why is that?

    "If we take the 3: 3 in England: We have 2-0. I then made changes to give players the opportunity to get game practice before the World Cup. Maybe I have to be more selfish and take more account of the importance of success for the team."

    In this generation you have the feeling that Joshua Kimmich has to do everything but also wants to do everything.

    "Jo is one who likes to go ahead. But that has to take place in a development. That doesn't go from zero to a hundred. He gets all the support and he is not alone..

    I think that Toni Rüdiger, for example, is a player who has made a good development in this regard. He could certainly push the team even more. And I also see Nico Schlotterbeck in perspective, he has a good mentality."

    You have not nominated Niklas Süle again. Why?
    "For me, Niki could be one of the best central defenders out there. His potential is huge. But I think he still leaves a lot. I want him to take a step forward from his attitude, from his mentality."

    The same topic already existed on the way to the World Cup. Were you disappointed how he presented himself in Qatar?
    "I was 90 percent satisfied. But the ten percent who are missing are what make it up. I'm concerned with that. In the Bundesliga, 80 percent can be enough..

    "especially with its quality. But there is a danger in that. I think every international should be entitled to make the maximum of his potential. Getting through with less – is not my mentality."

    What signals do you receive from Manuel Neuer?
    "It's going well with Manu. We met briefly in Munich against Leipzig. He is a little earlier than originally expected. I am convinced that if he is fit again, he will come back to his old level."

    Will he automatically be number 1 and captain again?
    "We will decide that when the time comes. Manuel Neuer has shaped the goalkeeper game in well over ten years. He is an exception as a goalkeeper, just as a human being. But he has to show (and he knows that) his performance."

    Did you change anything in your work yourself?
    "My job is to protect the team. I heard more often after the World Cup, one would have to publicly criticize the players but that's usually not my way, We tell the players internally exactly what we expect and what we don't expect."

    But don't you have to touch the team harder to get them out of a comfort zone?
    "As a Bayern player, I experienced manager Uli Hoeneß. If you did something that didn't get so well, he clearly told you what wasn't possible. But externally he protected you."
     
  5. Shwass5555

    Shwass5555 Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Nov 21, 2022
    Süle needs a wake up call to be honest. I am ok with him earning his spot back in the team. He is no longer a young player with a potential, he is 27 and I fear he is a case of "what could have been" He has all the tools to be a world class defender but he is just lazy pure and simple.
     
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  6. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    PAIN DEPARTED - VAGNOMAN AND MOUKOKO JOIN A-TEA
    Kevin Schade has left the German national team early and will miss the international match against Ukraine on Monday (from 6 p.m., live on ZDF) in Bremen. The attacking player from the English Premier League club FC Brentford left the team headquarters in Neu-Isenburg near Frankfurt today due to slight muscular problems in order not to jeopardize his participation in the U21 European Championship. A premature departure after the Ukraine game was originally planned for Schade in order to strengthen the U21 squad for the European Championship.
    Josha Vagnoman from VfB Stuttgart and Youssoufa Moukoko from Borussia Dortmund are expected to be part of the senior national team, which has been preparing for the three upcoming international matches on the way to the 2024 European Championship in Germany since Wednesday in Frankfurt. Vagnoman and Moukoko will travel on to the U21 national team's training camp in South Tyrol on Sunday ahead of the European Championships in Romania and Georgia (June 21 to July 8, 2023).

    Gosens, Gündogan, Kehrer and ter Stegen arrive later
    Inter Milan's Robin Gosens and Manchester City's Ilkay Gündogan, who face their clubs in the UEFA Champions League final in Istanbul on Saturday (from 9pm), will travel to the national team after the final. Thilo Kehrer, who won the UEFA Conference League with West Ham United on Wednesday evening, and Marc-André ter Stegen, who traveled to Japan with FC Barcelona at the end of the season, join the DFB squad on Friday.

    The team of national coach Hansi Flick meets Ukraine on Monday (from 6 p.m., live on ZDF) in Bremen, on June 16 (from 8.45 p.m., live on ARD) in Warsaw and Poland on June 20 (from 8.45 p.m Clock, live on RTL) in Gelsenkirchen on Colombia.
     
  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    both Berisha and Fullkrug looking like transfer candidates aka both looking to play bigger clubs than Augsburg and Bremen.
     
  8. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Isn’t Berisha on loan from Fenerbahce? Are Augsburg gonna sign him and then sell him straight on?
     
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  9. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    he's on loan with buying option so not sure who would sell him in this case, but Wolfsburg and other clubs seem interested in him.

    I find it funny that Berisha was a 2BL Magdeburg flop, LOL and the coach at the time trashed him too. Seriously 2BL is a really bad league for young players.
     
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  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
     
  11. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Wanna see Wirtz & Musiala together in at least 1 of these matches.
     
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  12. Aderthan

    Aderthan Member+

    Schwarz weiss essen
    Germany
    Nov 17, 2020
    The back 3 won't work unless you have a quality CB + a Matthaeus or Sammer.
     
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  13. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Mustafi, Tah, Koch, what more do you need to dominate the world???
     
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  14. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Rudiger as good as any center back in world football. Problem is his partners are the issue.
     
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  15. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think Schlotterbeck + Rudiger would be fine. We don’t need a back 3, 4-3-3 with Can, Kimmich and Gundogan in midfield and Wirtz + Musiala supporting Fullkrug in attack still looks the best bet to me.
     
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  16. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yep. Shlotterbeck for me has to iron out his glaring errors. No doubt a hugh talent, but he goes through games where he switches off at critical times which are very costly.
     
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  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    Leno>>>>>ter Stegen
    I hope Leno starts 3/3 matches, best German GK!!!!
     
  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    given the fact that this generation of core 94-96 are underperformers and wasted potential maybe it is better to just park the bus, LOL.

    last time we won a tourney, CC17 we played back 3 then again, the world class Mustafi was in that back 3.:whistling::laugh:

    anyone notice, WC18 and WC22 we played back 2 and GS exit. Euro 2020 we played back 3 and we got to R16.

    the trend with this generation is there
    -back 2=2 GS exit
    -back 3=1 trophy and 1 R16 exit vs Pengland who made final of that tourney.

    I get the feeling that this current crop aren't good enough for back 2. Ignore the young CBs like Thiaw and Schlotterbeck.

    I'm not confident in the likes of Sule, Rudiger, Ginter, Kehrer, Tah, Koch etc. Rudiger might play in Real Madrid but for Germany he's just good at best, nothing exceptional. None of them even reach prime Hummels-Boa duo. And I said it years ago, none of this lot wins you any trophies.

    also we have a huge hole at RB which doesn't help. Obsession with false RBs aka CBs at RB or someone like Wolf who got exposed moment he played a good team because he's not an RB but only more recently shoved there at club.......we need Klostermann and Henrichs to get their shit together. Same can be said to Baku.

    none of this is helped by the fact that the current NT has 0 German traits from teams of past. So the mentality and attitude is poor, the structuring is poor.

    although will say what's funny about playing back 3 is even with extra D, we still concede goals, LMAO.

    Flick is a terrible coach and I don't expect miracles at Euro 2024. We should get out of the group at min due to even 3rd place teams can get out. But after that its all about having a good route to the final. And if he thinks back 3 is only way for this lot, oh well what can you do, maybe they'll limp to the final, LOL.

    I'm hoping for a shock SF run!!!! Crazy that we haven't been to a Euro or WC SF since 2016, almost a full decade.....
     
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  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    on topic of bad mentality, Flick himself has it as well.
    We are no longer at the top as a national team. That means we have to work our way back step by step."

    sure its true but no need to say it aloud.....then again dfb is full of coaches who say stuff like this so when they bomb at tourneys, they can be like see told you we suck, don't anyone blame me aka save their own hide.

    have a bit more arrogance, LMAO.
     
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  20. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Next year's Euro will mark 28 years since Germany last won it, the longest Germany have gone without winning the tournament. Even worse is sharing the record of Euro titles with those fvcking Spaniards.
     
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  21. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #1496 Alex C, Jun 10, 2023
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2023
    I think our biggest problem is mentality. We can put a team on the pitch who have basically all won major trophies in club football, many have even won the CL. So why are they not capable of contending/going deep into international tournaments? I mean are we really worse player for player than Croatia or Morocco?

    I think it’s an easy cop out to excuse our constant under achievement for Flick to try and claim we are underdogs or a long way behind, we don’t have to be it’s definitely possible to do a lot better imo.
     
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  22. Aderthan

    Aderthan Member+

    Schwarz weiss essen
    Germany
    Nov 17, 2020
    Maybe Flick is the reason of this continuity of failure. I don't see any improvement in the tactical department, he's basically Jogi v.2.
     
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  23. Aderthan

    Aderthan Member+

    Schwarz weiss essen
    Germany
    Nov 17, 2020
    If they managed to get past the group stage then is it considered a good tournament for this team?
     
  24. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Hummels boetang who were quality also had top quality players in khedira kroos and others who were brilliant in protecting them. Come 2018 world cup when khedira legs had gone, even hummels Boetang were getting ripped apart.

    Defence is not the only issue. Kimmich Groetzka combo is clearly weak, as is our attack of sane, Werner, Ganebry who never perform when it matters. Meaningless friendlies don't count, or qualifiers against pub teams. LOL
     
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  25. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    This is the thing, we first tried a reboot with the same coach which was never likely to work, and are now trying the same with a coach who worked closely with the previous coach. Maybe what we really need is a clean break from the Low era, something Flick clearly is not.
     
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