The US Supreme Court Thread - Post Roe v. Wade reversal edition

Cons still have election day and ballot fvckery to fall back on.

 

The Supremes also upheld Medicaid. There was a weird case from Indiana that alot of liberals were afraid of. The Good Guys won by a 7-2 margin. Justices Alito and Thomas in dissent, natch.

The margin here makes me wonder if Roberts, Gorsuch, and Kavanagh looked at the rhetoric about the unaccountable court and thought, whoa, we need to be more careful. Let's not blow up Medicaid too unless we want to welcome 4 new justices after January 20, 2025.

 

A decision that may be worth 5 seats.

New @CookPolitical: in the wake of the SCOTUS Alabama decision, we're shifting five House ratings in Democrats' direction. It's very likely two formerly Solid R seats will end up in Solid D. https://t.co/MXV2dJeIdc pic.twitter.com/q0FNwZMwc7

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) June 8, 2023

 

I predict there will be a sudden realization that new voting restrictions are needed that, just by chance of course, target black voters.

 

It's sent back down to the trial court where the trial judge will manage it. This can be done via the contempt process where the judge fines the legislature a certain amount per day they don't pass a map that complies with the SCOTUS ruling, or, like they've done in other states, the court sets a deadline for the legislature to pass a new map. If the state fails to pass a compliant map, then the court takes over the process and the court draws the map. Obviously the court isn't going to actually draw the map, but they have a series of hearings where the court decides what process they will use to draw the map. Sometimes this means the two sides submit their preferred maps and the judge picks between the two, or tells them which aspects they like of their maps and sends them back to redraw, etc. In other cases, the court has the two sides come up with rules to follow (ie, as small and compact as possible without breaking cities/counties into different districts, while accounting for race, etc, etc) and then an independent group will be selected to actually draw the map.

 

Would there be any fed. enforcement mechanisms to prevent state fvckery leading up to 2024?

 

Others are much more qualified to respond, my feeling is that it would depend on how quickly such matters would get to the Supreme Court and have them decide on it.

 

This case could have governed the 2022 election, but the Supremes stayed a lower court decision. IOW, if the Supremes had let the lower court decision which they just upheld stay in effect, we would have speaker Hakeem Jeffries.

 

Yes but didn't do this dance already?! Or am I suffering from deja screw!?

 

Hmm? Not sure what you mean? The lower court has to follow the SCOTUS's ruling, which should mean that any LD map will included to Dem districts.

 

The lower court in Ohio already said that the Legislature has to draw new maps. The Legislature delayed and delayed and delayed, pushing back the delivery, until they said it was too late and they had to use the unconstitutional maps.

I’m not certain where it is in the process now, but the argument is that the Legislature and ONLY the legislature can draw and approve maps, and the court can not, even if they say they are unconstitutional.

So the court can hold the Legislature in contempt, but who will enforce the law? It seems like the Feds would have to? IDK

 

Yes, the wheels of justice are slow... Did that court ruling make it all the way up to the Supreme Court and with a year and a half until the next election tho?

 

It is truly a big deal... It has the potential to dramatically change the elections dynamics next year.

David Wasserman: “Politically, the ruling could shake up the 2024 battle for the House, send shockwaves beyond Alabama and potentially offset a new gerrymander Republicans are likely to impose in North Carolina. The key states to watch are Alabama, Louisiana, Georgia and South Carolina.”

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This "just happened" for the 2022 election. I think mid-August was the deadline, because they wouldn't have time to send ballots to the right people after then. I haven't really heard of any follow up 10months since it happened.

But as the VRA doesn't have any jurisdiction in Ohio as subject to the special provisions, I'm not certain if this has any influence on the Ohio situation.

Would the the Federal Legislature just refuse to seat Ohio representatives because they were elected using unconstitutional maps? For state-held offices, would the Feds (not even certain who that refers to) have to step in and administer elections or institute maps? I just don't know what happens if the GOP just refuses to follow the law.

 

Nancy Pelosi wouldn't have stepped aside if the Democrats retained the majority.

 

it would appear Ohio Republicans are appealing to the SCOTUS.

https://www.lwv.org/legal-center/le...ague-women-voters-v-huffman-congressional-map

 

He's wrong.

There is no difference, as much as some segments of America want there to be. It IS conservative. The word as applied to politics hasn't meant anything but mean-spiritedness, ever.

 

Henry Brown sat in a wooden box for 28 hours without making a sound. A relative in the hospital would not have delayed his act. John Brown walked to his own noose with his head held high.

I think you're right, just musing on how soft we've become over the generations. It's not like RBG, who was on her deathbed and could not answer the bell for truth and justice another day longer. She had given all she could for righteousness. Pelosi needs to step up. Earl Little was killed for doing the right thing, as was his son.

If conservatives cow us into not doing the most important thing we can do as individuals --and for Pelosi, that thing is to be a warrior for the oppressed and a thorn in the side of conservatism-- then we live for nothing.

 

I read what you wrote and think the answer is below

The handmaiden, Trolito and Uncle Ruckus don't care about how they are viewed one bit. But Gorsuch occasionally, Roberts and Beer Boy definitely. In this instance I think Roberts got to Beer Boy and pulled him to the Dems side. I don't trust any of them for one second but I do believe they want the prestige and the respect too. With so much heat on they decided to give a few liberal decisions so they go back to claiming they just call balls and strikes.

 

Here was the old voting district

Here's the Alabama congressional map that was struck down today.

It packs African American residents from Birmingham to Montgomery to Tuscaloosa to Selma into one single district (=everything that's blue on this map). pic.twitter.com/AJ8WDuRPnU

— Taniel (@Taniel) June 8, 2023

It will affect Louisana case

Here's the Louisiana congressional map that is being challenged on similar grounds. pic.twitter.com/kFSs5f310G

— Taniel (@Taniel) June 8, 2023

Hopefully what they are doing to Texas will matter

LOVE the conservative "two unrelated cities need the same representation" here's mine- bc austin and san antonio are ABSOLUTELY the same place with the same needs /s pic.twitter.com/1Bltpvyc2i

— watch fallout gain monsterfucking fuel (@ghoulcowboyy) June 8, 2023

 

Rslfanboy covered my point. The state supreme Court ruled against it and then I don't think it's going to the supreme Court but the Republicans are just still rolling with their illegal map.

 

One would think that good old Clarence would hunker down and keep a low profile for a while. But no!
This fkr is just so arrogantly entitled he just can’t help himself.
“What can they do to me?”


Clarence Thomas wrote a scathing, nearly 50-page dissent about why the Supreme Court should have gutted voting rights
Kelly McLaughlin
Jun 8, 2023, 10:48 AM PDT

• Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas dissented in Thursday's 5-4 ruling on Allen v. Milligan.
• He wrote a nearly-50-page dissent about his disagreement with the ruling.
• Thursday's ruling found that Alabama violated the Voting Rights Act's ban on racial gerrymandering.