German Fraulein National Team 2020 & beyond

Discussion in 'Germany Mädels: NT and Frauen-Bundesliga' started by hotjam2, Feb 26, 2020.

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  1. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
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    #2801 blissett, Jun 9, 2023
    We're 11th. And, if you think about it, it's a double one! :p
     
  2. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
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    #2802 Batfink, Jun 12, 2023
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    It's strange to see someone act so irrational towards a rival team lol. Seriously... your posts are starting to read like someone who's becoming increasingly nervous about the potential title credentials of this group of players...:coffee:
     
  3. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
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    Real Madrid
    #2803 hotjam2, Jun 13, 2023
    WOW you’ve insulted MVT or this or that player way more numerous times than Ivd ever did, but in your realm of the world, apparently you’re the only one allowed to make negative comments.
     
  4. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

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    #2804 hotjam2, Jun 13, 2023
    well I noticed now half of Spain’s rebellious faction has returned. I actually enjoyed their B squad more—they were way more scrappy than the complacency that mostly Barca dominated A squad used to play with(or at least during major tournies( So maybe a good thing for Japan as they really need to win their group/2nd place has way too rough of an journey through the WC.

    is Minami injured?(noticeable absent from the JUV/Roma cup final that popped up in YouTube the other day)
     
  5. blissett

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    #2805 blissett, Jun 13, 2023
    No, it was technical choice: she was over-used in the first part of the season (until March), when she had the record of played minutes, and under-used in the last part.
     
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  6. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
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    #2806 Batfink, Jun 13, 2023
    Ughhh, I'll say this again... until I see Germany play their opening 2-3 games of the WC, I don't know how far they could go. But right now, understanding the quality of 12-14 players MVT has access to, and having witnessed their impressive display during the Euro's, my opinion on Germany being a very strong team at this WC won't change.

    However... seeing you trying to suggest my various criticisms for MVT's strange ambivalence towards upgrading the depth of CB and RB roles, or my questioning of the inclusion of ineffectual players, is somehow the same as you constantly bringing up pointlessly asinine what if scenario's, it's pretty dumb...:rolleyes:

    As it's been pretty it obvious to everyone that Nüsken, and Anyomi, were struggling in new defensive roles, while players like Lohmann, Oberdorf, Hegering, Bühl, Popp etc... all remain key to this teams best chances of success.

    Your the the only person here making needlessly contrarian assertions on these players either being insufficiently used, or overrated lol... only to then suggest ridiculously inferior options/styles of play the better route for MVT to take...:confused:
     
  7. Batfink

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    Attilan
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    #2807 Batfink, Jun 13, 2023
    If you want to be negative about Germany's WC chances... fine. But stop getting annoyed about me mocking your increasingly weird assertions, or whining about me using basic facts to invalidate some of your more irrational opinions lol.

    When you say... "I guess with Germany being ranked #2, everything below making the finals would be an disappointment?" Yeah, I might start to think someone here sounding increasingly nervous about this team chances at the WC lol.

    But at the end, I want to see Germany's wnt win another major tournament. But you... no, I know you don't want to see Germany succeed lol..;); so stop trying to act like a victim here, I know exactly what your doing...:coffee:

    Ohhh.. that's what were calling this now....:rolleyes:
     
  8. kribi

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    Lyon
    France
    Jan 21, 2022
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    #2808 kribi, Jun 13, 2023
    WRONG. u talk talk, dubious assertions.
    1/ You don't know who were in the "Las 15" ?
    Barca : Mapi, Guijarro, Pina, Caldentey, Bonmati, Panos
    Ath.Madrid : Gallardo, Moraza
    Real Sociedad : Sarriegi, Eizaguirre
    Man United : Battle, Garcia
    Man City : Ouahabi, Aleixandri
    Club America : Perreira

    2/ u don't know who Vilda called among the "las 15"
    Only 3 : Battle, Bonmati, Caldentey

    3 is not the half of 15, or... ?

    and whatever u think about the previous "A" team, Guijarro (to name only her) missing at the WC is a real loss for the spanish team. But maybe u don't know Guijarro ...

    /sorry for the off topic
     
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  9. Batfink

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    Attilan
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    #2809 Batfink, Jun 13, 2023
    Oh...
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  10. hotjam2

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    #2810 hotjam2, Jun 14, 2023
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    no problem talking about it; there’s so little inside info on Spain—no Facebook/twitter groups to check & BS’s thread is mostly dead. And then half of their players use first names/the other half—their last name, so that adds up to the confusion. It looks like they didn’t call up to the squad one of my faves—del Castillo, but I guess now she goes with her first name—Althena(which did make the provisional list.

    even though they weren’t on the original banned list, Putellas & Hermoso at first supported the rebels….and Parades as well has switched over to Vilda’s side.

    never been that impressed with Spanish A; yes, they always look great for most of the year in friendlies, but then always flop at the major, summer tournaments. The new B squad I’ve been seeing, plays more up tempo/quicker pace then the previous mostly Barca dominated A squad with it’s more tiki tacca style(it flopped once again at last year’s Euros)

    Concerning their WC chances, Spain might have a better chance it it sticks with its scrappier B version(practically unbeaten since their development) it’s been currently playing—-or they could flop too come WC. —- or be right at 2008-mens Euros(where there would dominate the next 3 major tournaments). Since last year, they’ve added possible emerging superstars Salma & Alba(going with their first names). They’ve added explosive speed up front(previously missing), but now could be to the back burners for the returning oldies & their slower tiki tacca style

    this all got to be concerning for Japanese super fan @blissett, as whoever wins that group, got the way easier ride in the playoffs. I’m pretty sure the similar wise, midfield possession minded Japan would prefer meeting Spain A, than the newer, more uptempo B squad(so again—will the real Spain please stand up!)
     
  11. hotjam2

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    #2811 hotjam2, Jun 14, 2023
    the only good thing if Germany flops is that MVT would get fired—I mean for the last year now Germany been lifeless, so dunno if they can get that spark back.
    You keep saying we can’t use club soccer as an barometer, but it’s still the same exact players—-and can’t help but that last Wolfsburg/Frankfurt game still ringing in my mind; even Hendrich got owned by that Anyomi goal, but worst of all was Hegering who couldn’t even defend when Prasnikar was lying on the ground, yet still got off an brilliant assist to Freigang, lol.

    So all I can think of is maybe most of the WC opponents will NOT be as good as club soccer—but it will obviously gets stronger as the tournament goes along, especially into the playoffs.

    on the pro side for Germany; Brand, Lohmann Freigang & Anyomi(playing upfront) could very well be the spark to take over late in the game, especially during the playoffs, the deep bench is an big positive that most other NT’s don’t have
     
  12. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
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    #2812 Lohmann, Jun 14, 2023
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  13. blissett

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    #2813 blissett, Jun 14, 2023
  14. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
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    #2814 Lohmann, Jun 14, 2023
    You think first place is guaranteed for Morocco?:sneaky:
     
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  15. blissett

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    #2815 blissett, Jun 14, 2023
    Of course! :p
     
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  16. Batfink

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    Attilan
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    #2816 Batfink, Jun 14, 2023
    LOL, the DFB have made sure they have NOBODY to replace MVT.... she's going nowhere. And why do you constantly ignore how genuinely bad MVT's Germany were pre Euro's...?

    If MVT can get the same core of players to recover from their horrible pre Euro form, and help them become a genuinely impressive team during a tournament finals... I don't know why she can't she do the same, or produce something even better for the upcoming event...:coffee:
     
  17. Batfink

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    Attilan
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    #2817 Batfink, Jun 14, 2023
    You know EXACTLY why it not wise, or very smart, to use such small data samples of club football to validate the entire narrative of these players taking part within international football/the WC...:confused:

    Being reactionary allowing you to make strange proclamations that one good moment instantly confirms someone the best in the world, to the next game allowing you to claim a genuinely strong player suddenly washed thanks to a bad/mediocre performance...:confused:

    I'm also convinced you intentionally do this with a huge amount of bias lol, as you'll do everything possible to ignore the poor moments/displays from players you've previously hyped..:sneaky:; but I shouldn't have to tell you why predicting Germany's WC hopes on the single result of Frankfurt Vs Wolfsburg, unlikely to correlate with these players actual form during the WC.
     
  18. Batfink

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    Attilan
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    #2818 Batfink, Jun 14, 2023
    There's a lot of evidence to show you how much international football unique compared to factors of elite level club football. And we're no longer in a period of time an established program like Germany's able to finish with double digit scores Vs CONMEBOL's 2nd best team.

    I personally have very little idea how good/weak club football is within the nations Germany will be facing during the WC group stage, but I know these same wnt's will still demand Germany's players produce a higher intensity of football than we've seen from them playing for their various clubs teams this season...:cautious:
     
  19. Batfink

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    Attilan
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    #2819 Batfink, Jun 14, 2023
    If it now means getting a place in the squad ahead of Bühl, Brand, Popp, Schüller, Huth, Waßmuth, or Freigang, I'm not convinced Anyomi will be going to the WC.

    While both Popp, and Schüller, still ahead of Freigang, I don't see how she will ever play for the wnt if she can't convince MVT to finally give her minutes with a CAM role.

    Highlighting why it really doesn't matter how strong MVT's options might appear on paper, when she still has a lot of work to do organising a new core 14 together, before we even consider the potential effectiveness of any planed substitution strategies:unsure:
     
  20. hotjam2

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    #2820 hotjam2, Jun 15, 2023
    @Batfink getting strange vibes from Wassmuth; she just got married yesterday, now wants her name changed to Selner. So aren’t the NT’s suppose to be in training? But really now makes wonder if it’s going to be Anyomi over Tabea(unless Anyomi is once again picked over an real defender)

    don’t get me wrong, I love Wassmuth, but reminds me in an way how another German de facto player. JoJo Elsig, was completely wasted. I believe Wassmuth got now a doctorate in psychology, maybe her main interest is somewhere else now—I still don’t get why this year she’s taken on such an supporting role at WOB, especially after saving Stroot’s butt last season on several occasions(her 4 goals vs Chelsea especially come to mind), but odd that she wants to changer her name now(in front of potential endorsements) or why she wouldn’t want an spot on the WC(guess only an psychologist could figure that out, lol)

    Anyomi had 7 goals & 4 assists in her last 9 league games, so nice to see someone surging so late in the season & in my book could be that secret weapon or X factor to come in late in the game & take over—but of course, upfront. Brining her on as an attacking FB, will just kill you on defense
     
  21. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
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    #2821 Lohmann, Jun 15, 2023
    Sellner.
    Training:cautious:

     
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  22. Batfink

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    Attilan
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    #2822 Batfink, Jun 15, 2023
  23. Batfink

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    Attilan
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    #2823 Batfink, Jun 15, 2023
    It's rare to see someone remain so persistent in their desire to advance the downfall of something supposedly so insignificant...:giggle:. I want to see Germany do well at this WC, but your sounding increasingly manic in your attempts to find reasons why this can't/shouldn't happen...:rolleyes:
     
  24. Batfink

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    Attilan
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    #2824 Batfink, Jun 15, 2023
    Anyomi's offensive game has a lot of potential... but with MVT saying she's placed Anyomi alongside the forwards, I can't see how she gets into the WC squad ahead of the teams already established attacking options...:cautious:

    Right now, the overall productivity of Anyomi not on the same level, or better than Bühl, Brand, Huth, Waßmuth (as wide forwards). And not close to Magull, or Freigang, as CAM's either. With it being completely pointless comparing her to forwards like Popp, Schüller.

    Hold on... Waßmuth arrived on the elite stage late in her career, and managed to become the UWCL's top scorer in the same season she'd also come on as a sub during a Euro final to provide the assist for Germany's equalising goal.

    You clearly don't know Elsig's path, if you think it's so far been anything like Waßmuth lol
     
  25. Batfink

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    Attilan
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    #2825 Batfink, Jun 15, 2023
    #1 this isn't fake commercial investment world of USwnt soccer lol...:rolleyes: #2 Sellner (Waßmuth) had to get ahead of Popp, Pajor, SJJ, Brand, Bremer, Huth, to start games for her club. And get ahead of Bühl, Brand, Popp, Schüller, Huth, if she wants to start games for the wnt.

    I feel like your trying way too hard to find strange reasons to validate you making some more really bad pre WC takes right now...:unsure:

    OK... say MVT doesn't select Sellner for the WC, and due to form or tactics needs to take Huth out of her team, are you suggesting Anyomi gets to play ahead of options like Bühl, Brand, or Freigang...o_O

    Again, this new narrative hyping Anyomi's potential WC inclusion as a FW sounds incredibly strange to me; as besides a poor Euro final display as an attacker, we've seen very little to validate the idea she's actually equal to, or better, than the already established options available to MVT...:cautious:
     
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