Ricardo Pepi at PSV Eindhoven

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  1. According to German journalist Florian Plettenberg the sale isnot a done deal yet and Feyenoord still in the running (wonder how if his price mentioned is correct) as Augsburg has put down their wishes:


    It's still 4 or 5 million above what Feyenoord is prepared to pay.
     
  2. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
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    United States
    11 million is still a little short on the front end, imo. I thought it had to be 12.5+ to realistically recoup what they paid for him on the back end w/ the sell-on. The sell-on % is fine. I still think they need to bolster the guaranteed $, or at least tie in a few million more in terms of performance (goals) & appearance incentives.

    If Feyenoord were offering 6-7 million on the front end, that's ridiculous. They shouldn't have even bothered. I know they're far from a heavy hitter financially, but they did win the league and are in UCL. That ups the ante. And I don't know how it's between PSV and Feyenoord if the clubs are that far away on offers.

    We'll have to see how the details shake out, but I could definitely see a late swoop in from a bigger league, if PSV's offer is exactly how it's being expressed here, & they don't spice it up a bit. If PSV is offering that #, you'd have to figure some clubs in a top 4 could beat it.

    FTR, I'm rooting for PSV. Too bad Pepi curtailed a bit after Groningen got relegated, otherwise there wouldn't be as much haggling.
     
  3. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    It also depends on if Pepi has any interest in joining teams from a bigger league vs PSV.
     
  4. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

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    United States
    The alternative is going back to a bigger league team who doesn't set up a striker for success.
     
  5. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
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    i prefer PSV to Feyenoord too....interesting to see how it plays out

    re: the number....augsburg already has a few seasons of pepi rght? so that should knock the overall value down some.....but yeah...6 or 7 seems not worth it
     
  6. For the record, Dutch defender Robin Gosens, who transferred from Heracles to Atalanta is playing tomorrow in the CL final. Yoy don't need to play at Feyenoord, Ajax or PSV to make it to the highest stage.
     
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  7. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Def true... but Atalanta got him for like $1.7M and then like $18M to Inter so not exactly comparable scenarios at all.

    Pepi already had the $18M transfer so he sorta has to go to the PSV/Ajax/Feyen as a rule of financials.
     
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  8. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    There is also a very plausible scenario where Feyenie or Lightbulbs sets the bottom and someone non-Dutch steps in to beat them by a bit. 11 + 25% assumes a minimum 20mill sale, and expects more. There's more than one non-Dutch club might be willing to gamble 15 mill to get goals and 20+ mill after a year or two. Dutch clubs are usually pretty conservative/pragmatic with their offers. That is not true for all leagues/clubs.
     
  9. Alemannia

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    Alemannia Aachen
    Sep 16, 2021
    You mean German defender. ;)
     
  10. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

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    Dublin
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    Manchester United FC
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    Because Pepi may have a strong preference for Feyenoord over PSV - CL ball, better coach, higher in the depth chart, etc. - and the player always has a big say in the matter.

    If he believes that Feyenoord are simply haggling harder and longer before finally conceding, say, 9 million up front and 30% of the sell-on, that alone is sufficient to explain any delay.

    And if he's willing to take a lower guaranteed salary in exchange for Feyenoord moving closer to PSV's cash amount in return for a share of the sell-on fee for himself, it may still be possible for the Feyenoord move to happen. But if it does, the negotiations and the contracts will be anything but straightforward.
     
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  11. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

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    True, but there may be a difference in the sell-on clause. Perhaps PSV is offering 11 million in cash, plus 25% of any profit made in the resale, while Feyenoord is offering 7 million and 30% of the gross transfer in the resale.

    I assume there's a rule of thumb or default for these clauses but I don't recall what it is, and there are bound to be unusual deals anyway.
     
  12. #2312 feyenoordsoccerfan, Jun 10, 2023
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2023
    Nope, he's both Dutch and German, but his development was on the Netherlands.
    Edit: I already around his transfer to Atalanta was posting Koeman should lock him in before Löw would wake up, but do they ever listen to me, ....noooh.
    It took Löw remarkable much time before he noticed him, maybe he didnot know Robin was both Dutch and German.
     
  13. Alemannia

    Alemannia Member

    Alemannia Aachen
    Sep 16, 2021
    I realize that he is both Dutch and German, my point was just that he chose to play for Germany.
     
  14. Yup, thanks to that idiot Koeman, who's on the brink to repeat that trick. He refuses to select Frimpong, who was chosen in the BuLi team of the year! Ghana or England might be the laughing party this time.
     
  15. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

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    I can't think of a better team for Pepi to go to right now. This seems like the smartest possible move with the highest chance of maximizing his future.
     
  16. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

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    Manchester United FC
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    As long as he sticks to the Eredivisie, I don't mind whether he goes to PSV or Feyenoord. Either way, he'll have a much clearer run at PT and then becoming a starter than in a Top 5 league, with plenty of weak(er) teams that he can score on and enough strong teams at the top end to seriously test him, plus CL or EL group stage football as a showcase.

    It's a much better route than a depth option for a decent Top 5 side or a starter for another relegation struggler with a constipated midfield.
     
  17. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    AZ is going to replace one of those 2 teams in the top 3 next year. Pin this post! Lol
     
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  18. Actually we've having a top 4 for a couple of seasons already. If covid hadnot happen, AZ would have been champions in the season halted. They already did beat both PSV and Ajax home and away and only Feyenoord once, just because we didnot play them for a second time.
    I'm even guessing we might have a top 5 with fc Twente knocking on the door too.
     
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  19. Actually the stakes went up, as next season you really want to end as at least nr 3 as then you grab one of the 3 CL tickets that come available in season 2024/2025. So it's going to become a hard fight between the top 5 for those big CL moneybags.
     
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  20. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    yep. This is the key.
     
  21. The Irish Rover

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    Which is why I can see the rather remote possibility of the standoff being resolved by Pepi going on loan to AZ if they qualify for the EL group stages, or even Twente if they make the Conference.

    That puts Pepi in the European shop window, and then maybe someone offers the 16.5 million Augsburg paid and puts everyone out their misery.

    Like I said, it's a remote possibility but this is football, so who knows.
     
  22. Pegasus

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    England getting a dual national because another country is even more inept than they are? Not going to happen. Ghana will be all over him.
     
  23. BostonRed

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    https://www.kicker.de/augsburgs-plan-mit-pepi-955762/artikel

    Feyenoord Rotterdam or PSV Eindhoven? In the near future, the decision as to who will hire Ricardo Pepi will be made between these two applicants , and both are competing for his services. The attacker had been on loan from FC Augsburg to the Netherlands since late last summer, and Pepi was able to convince with ten goals at FC Groningen. He does not want to return to the Bundesliga club, he declared that early on. 15 Bundesliga games without a goal remain a poor record.

    In the long term, the transfer might not pay off in sporting terms, but it could still pay off financially. The plan: FCA would like to secure a high resale share in the event of a transfer. According to kicker information, we are talking about 25 percent.
     
  24. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Feyenoord is historically bigger than PSV right although PSV has been of higher stature in recent years/decades?
     
  25. Yeah, Feyenoord has a far bigger following, but PSV has won far more titles than we did. The rivalry is between the Feyenoord and Ajax fans but when it's about the title race PSV is the one Ajax most of the times has to beat.
     
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