This is the worst season in a long time to attempt to argue BVB was NOT trying to win. They literally had a chance to win the league on the last match day. Also they wouldn't be such a magnet for top young talent if they weren't an extremely well regarded club with success.
well of course they would prefer to win...but I think the first priority is high transfer profits. is that really that crazy? even if it is just 1A and 1B....I don;t think it's that controversial a take for instance, I don't think Chelsea benched Pulisic because of on-field considerations...but to ensure his successful transfer this offseason. I could be totally off about BVB...but do people really think think that the only factor the big clubs take into account when playing or not playing a player is due to competitive factors????
i didnt realize that bellingham was injured...i saw him on the bench so didnt think it was an injury keeping him out
If Dortmund's first priority is high transfer profits, then how does that jibe with NOT playing Gio Reyna? Your theory doesn't make sense.
You have such strong opinions of Dortmund, yet you pay little attention to WHY the coach makes the decisions he does. They were in the driver's seat on the last day of the season because the team played well (and was coached well) and overtook Bayern late.
He's going to Bayern. Yup, one of the players to keep Reyna on the bench is going to Munich. Yes, it's crazy! Being one point away from a title in 11 years is worth more than 100M. How can you NOT see that? The winner of the Bundesliga gets at least €108 million euros - that could have paid Bellingham to stay for another season. You give these people (club sporting directors) way too much credit but it isn't Home Econ 101. Managers give zero fvcks about off season transfers. Pulisic has been written off as bad debt by the club. They know they won't sell him for what they bought him. Trust me, they didn't bench him because they wanted to make an extra million here or there...do you know how crazy that sounds? He was benched because they didn't think he could do the job they wanted him to do. You are totally off. Managers have a squad to play the squad...not to buy or sell, that is the job of the FO and Sport Director.
US Nat insanity comes to YA. I really used to believe the guy was a troll. Why? I had to. If he wasn’t it would just be very, very, very, very sad. It is.
welll I have followed them for the last 6-8 years (i was living in Germany for some of that time)...pulisic or reyna have basically been there that whole time.....and if you take the last decade into account....especially...dortmund's strategies and decisions have been highly questionable. they shouldve won the title at least a few times within the last 10 years with better management, imo
and what will you say when Pulisic looks great and plays great at his next team??? my point is to criticize poor management. two shining examples at Chelsea (especially) and Dortmund, this season, imo In the end, both teams had the talent to do much better than they did. okay, well none of us (I assume) truly have access to what happens behind closed doors at these big clubs...we only get what they say publically and what they do with their actions. we disagree about this topic. in my opinion, sporting concerns that are "the responsibilty" of the coach are sometimes trumped and overridden by management or other people within a club. ...whether it is publically admitted or not. sometimes the boundaries of these roles can be quite fuzzy.
well look at the collective transfer value of the whole team.....not just one player. I think the strategy of playing time of dortmund and their decision to bench reyna might possibly have been made from this line of thinking....how can we maximize the value of our entire roster?.....who has a high transfer value even on our bench and who doesnt? etc who do we want to transfer this summer? lets play them so we can squeeze the juice more.... like I said, his play on the field and production was certainly good enough for a bigger role THIS SEASON...are you all disputing that?!?!??!?! Gio can be sold next year and play a big role next season.....his value will stay high even on the bench. ..so he was a prime candidate for benching aside from sporting reasons. they already know they want gio for next season...so better to play the players that they want to sell this summer to get more money for them....right????? HE WAS THE LEADER OF THE ENTIRE BUNDESLIGA IN PRODUCTION PER MINUTE yet barely played...and you all are backing up the decision to barely play him! am I in bizarro world here????? whatever the case, Dortmund totally squandered a golden opportunity to win the league through bad decision making. that is undisputable. am I speculating? surely.....but I never meant to present my posts as strongly as they are being interpeted.. I notice irregularities in dortmunds approach from an on-field perspective and am looking for possible explanations.....what they have done is questionable from a sporting point.....so it is possible that the sporting side isnt the priority.....that's how I see it....and your insults and slander wont change the doubts that I have.
No, your point was that Terzic (the manager) didn't play Bellingham because he was concerned about his transfer value. But then someone told you that he was injured and that's why he started on the bench in the final game of the season. You've used unbacked arguments about Terzic not playing Reyna as well, without giving any weight to the fact that Terzic had brought Dortmund into the league lead by the end of the season through his "poor management". His management seems good enough. You just don't like it that he decided to give Reyna sparse playing time in that good run.
Pulisic and Bellingham are complete apples to oranges. Chelsea were playing for nothing, nothing to be gained or lost except for pride and evaluating players for next season. They also had an interim manager hired explicitly to see the last couple of weeks of the season out. Pulisic has a long history of injury and seems certain to move this summer. It is more than plausible that management went to Lumpy and told him to keep Pulisic's minutes to a minimum, that they need to try and recoup what little they can from him, that they can't sell him at all if he is broken again, and that they need to try and get a full look at some of the younger guys. Yeah, he was having a crap season, so the probable looming transfer may not be the only factor involved, but it's not completely off base to think that stuff other than just on the field performance came into that decision making process. Bellingham was played too much. The knee didn't just materialize on the last day of the season. He had been on the field in a knee brace towards the end. Terzic was trying to get to the finish line with him and unfortunately he came up short. It looked to me that they were absolutely desperate to get him on the field for that last game, and yeah if he could have played BVB would likely have won the title. Brandt was also racking up the minutes also prior to his hammy. He was never the same after that for the rest of he season. It can't be known if things would have been different if Terzic had chosen to rotate differently throughout the second half of the season, but he didn't and they came up just short.
as the dortmund season wound down, I saw some surprising lineup decisions....the last game of the season good example.....yes I am not a fan of how he benched gio. overall, I think if a team's business model is transferring young stars to bigger teams...and they have a glut of stars ... with transfer potential...too many players for too few spots.....it makes a lot of sense to look at the transfer timelines for the group and use that when deciding playing time. I'm not blaming dortmund if that is what they were thinking. of course, there are plenty of reasons why they wouldnt exactly come out and admit that if it were the case. again, i can't remember a player with the production level of gio ever being benched before....so I am looking for explanations...and "the coach just decided he's better from the bench" just doesnt do it for me.....
I think they have a genius strategy in a lot of ways but had they had better defenders throughout the last ten years they may have won some titles so that part is poor IMHO. The offensive side is the best in the world though - they just have trouble outscoring defensive miscues.
I was going to address this in detail only to realize that I have addressed this, more than once...showing actual data and showing transfer history, and more importantly, addressing this very claim, in response to you - no less. I won't do it again. BVB is in the business of trying to keep up with Bayern and win titles and if that is not the case, we would not have had a merry go round of managers since Tuchel left because no one gives a shit. The whole issue of finding young talent is not so we can sell them at a higher rate, it is so we can compete with Bayern within our financial means. For every Bellingham, I can point to 5 failed signings that you never hear about. The difference between BVB and the mega clubs, is we cannot hold on to players - not because we don't want to, but because we cannot compete with Man Citeh or Real Madrid. That is the bottom line. Its not a business model because we want it to be, it is only the appearance of a business model because of circumstance - you do understand the difference, right? It doesn't have to "do it for you"...but that doesn't mean there is a conspiracy. It just means the manager had a preference that you don't agree with. BVB went from 7th at the start of the 2nd half to tied with first and a point away from the title. So, Terzic did something right...short of stumbling at the very end.