The living breathing Garra Charrua terrorizing Madrid opponents - The Fede El Grande Valverde Thread

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  1. natenate101

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    Dec 16, 2006
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    Still.
     
  2. boeder

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    Feb 27, 2013
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    Buddy, this is on Carlo. Like @Hendrix22 said, you can't have a player spontaneously shifting between CM and RW for 90 mins twice a week while suffering a chronic foot injury and not being able to train properly. Wtf does that?

    Carlo's cowardice puts a straining physical and mental burden on some players until they reached the breaking point where they're ghosts on the pitch.

    It's just bad player management as far as I'm concerned.
     
  3. 4x4s

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    Frankfurts coach was asked why Frankfurt had a dip late in the season and he replied "Makoto Hasebe is 39 years old and just played 3 times a week. He's got blood in his urine right now".

    It became a big discussion about how much players play and how healthy, or unhealthy rather, that is.

    At that level, all players are carrying a huge burden on them towards the end of the season. But as @Umar said, you only hear about it from a losing team.
     
  4. boeder

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    Actually, we've heard it from winning sides as well. Benzema and Modric revealed they were playing with injuries towards the end of last season. Same with Ramos and Cristiano years ago.

    Carlo might have used it as an excuse for getting thumped but it's been clear as daylight that Fede, Rodyrgo, and Benzema haven't been fit. It's not an end-of-season fatigue thing, this has been the norm for months.
     
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  5. Lyra

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  6. Raul-7

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    He needs to stay; he's workhorse and honestly worldclass. We would be foolish to sell him.
     
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  7. Nir_O

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    Fede is our next Captain after Nacho imo.
     
  8. robertocarlos3

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    so if Nacho leaves, he's our 3rd captain after Modric and Kroos?
     
  9. dooda

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    The list based on seniority for next year is:

    Modric (Leaving 2024)
    Nacho (Leaving 2023?)
    Dani Carvajal
    Kroos (Leaving 2024)
    Lucas V
    Vallejo (Leaving 2023)
    Dani Ceballos (Leaving 2023?)
    Fede
    Lunin (Leaving 2023?)
    Odriozola (Leaving 2023?)
    Vini
    Tibo

    Fede needs to wait another year or two before he gets the arm band.
     
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  10. Raul-7

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    Why do I keep hearing news of him leaving?
     
  11. Anon.

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    The club may look at him as a dispensable player to cash-in on now, at a high reward. Our midfield will be crowded if Ceballos renews (although Modric might leave this summer) and Havertz would provide more than sufficient cover at RW.
     
  12. Digital

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    That would be sad, IMO when everyone is playing well there is no midfielder that we currently have that has a better all round game than Fede, on or off the ball
     
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  13. meringues

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    I really hope it’s just noise stemming from his poor past few months. Fede is still the near future club captain for me.
     
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  14. MerlinRM

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    I don't think he is leaving but I also don't see him as indispensable as I did this time last year.

    Luka doesn't want to and isn't leaving. Kroos is also allegedly renewing. With Ceballos, Tchouameni, Camavinga and Bellingham there will definitely be competition that I don't know if Fede can actually win out.
     
  15. Raul-7

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    We need to rotate? Like sometimes I don't get the management at this club. Moreover, Kroos and Modric are gone next season. So we will only have 5 midfielder for 3 spots.
     
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  16. Seoul Villan

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    I hope Fede can rest and get reset for the upcoming season. I still don’t know what his best position is TBH. I think being the work mule and carrying the defensive water for Kroos/Modric has impacted how he plays. First half last season he was bombing forward from MF and scoring - then post WC he just lost his spark, looked lost and ordinary. I love his work on the pitch, can be clever with flicks and movement off ball, but he does need to step up as Bellingham will challenge for prime minutes.
     
  17. Nir_O

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  18. meringues

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    Damn this is awful news. It’s AS so I’m now assuming Fede will be sold tomorrow.
     
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  19. Saeta Rubia

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    Fede has been at RM for 5 years now. We need to keep such players long term as they are the ones who becomes leaders at the club and establish RM culture. Ramos, Benzema, Modric, Kroos, Carva, Ronaldo, Casemiro etc did that during our golden CL era.

    Sell off those who complain about minutes and doesn't identify with RM competitive culture at the start itself like Morata, Odegaard, Hakimi to balance the books. Players like Fede are keepers and future captain material.
     
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  20. Umar

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    The guy will be a monster once his kids are in nursery. Until then his form will be patchy, lol.

    It would be shortsighted to sell but I can see Flo doing it. He did it with Ozil and Di Maria, only difference is they were angling for an increased contract and I’m not sure Fede is at that stage yet.
     
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  21. Saeta Rubia

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    We also signed Bale and Isco to replace Ozil that summer. RM doesn't have that kind of depth now.
     
  22. Umar

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    We just signed Bellingham and renewed Ceballos so we have four starters for three positions polis the vets plus Ceballos.
     
  23. Raul-7

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    But we need to rotate; one will always be benched. That's normal at any club.
     
  24. Saeta Rubia

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    So nothing like having BBC, Isco, KCM, Kovacic etc for 6 spots. There was Asensio and James as well.

    6 midfielders is normal depth. We will have only 5 when Kroos and Modric leaves in 2024.
     
  25. Akramzizou

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    6 midfielders is not the same as 6 starting level midfielders though. We are very strong and deep at GK, CB, midfield, and LW, but very weak everywhere else.
     

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