If FL continues to restrict immigrants like they have done recently, ain't shit going to get rebuilt.
I have not seen any numbers, but I suspect that the construction and agricultural sectors are taking a yuuuuge hit thanks to puddin fingers meddling.
The Big Business-luvin GOP: (conference room, large FL construction company) "So Disney has accepted our bid and we're looking to break ground next year. (high fives all around) So let's talk manpower, logistics, any regulatory issues..." "Hold on there, Doug. I see that that the governor has called Disney 'too Woke' and now Disney is pulling the plug on their corporate expansion in Orlando" "How can that be? Woke is ruining America I tell ya! I'll have to cancel my new yacht now"
1. Disney actually cancelled a billion dollar project near Orlando Airport. 2. That seems a sketch of things that never happened 3. It will be more like: "Doug, we can't find any messicans to dig the holes in the ground, or pour the concrete, or lift the bricks" "Well, then hire some 'Muricans!" "We tried, but they want to be paid $40/hour, they barely can move a wheelbarrow, and most of them are in drugs and quit within a week!" "Time to call doopersave!!!!"
My grandparents moved to a rather swampy part of Florida in the mid 90s and now there's a bunch of sprawl being built there. Even my grandmother is surprised at how much development has happened. I don't think I'll ever move to Florida for a variety of reasons, but outside of winter there's really no reason to live there (Or in places like Phoenix) during the summer.
Don't you dare disparage our hard-working Whitelandians like that. They'd supervise Messicans for only like $35/hour
Even if winters become too annoying as we age, why not move to the Caribbean instead? Nicer beaches, more relaxed vibe, less crime, less humid (at least from Anguilla southward). Basically the same trip if you want to go back to visit family in the US. I don't get FL's lure at all.
It's largely because NYC is still the cultural center of the country. While New Yorkers retiring in FL probably peaked in the 50's and 60's it's probably taken that long for that trend to spread to parts of the US.
I don't understand. How does NYC's rich culture explain FL being an attractive retirement destination?
People in the rest of the country eventually follow sources of rich culture. That's why trends begin in large cities not elsewhere.
So, basically people are sheep(?) I would have hoped by retirement age people would have gained enough life experience to know what they want.
... for retired people (on social security or a pension) 1. priced out 2. priced out 3. priced out 4. federal thing
Oh definetily, it was a tongue in cheek comment. Honestly speaking, living in South Florida, I don't see that many retired people from other latitudes, and most of them seem to be well off economically. They're either very rich people that can have a winter home around here, or they worked their adult life in a more productive city, and if they own a property that is very valuable, that they can sell and buy something in Florida for half that price or less, padding their retirement nicely. But even then, moving to the southeast seems to be a dumb move, and they're probably moving to the southwest or north of Palm Beach on the Atlantic, where is cheaper and less crowded. OTOH, I do see a lot of people of working age from other states, and if you ask me, a lot of it has to do with the weather and possibly with the Covid restrictions that Puddin fingers removed. My understanding is that the Orlando-Tampa area is buzzing, same as the two counties just north of Palm Beach.
Prior to Covid and everyone moving there, it was a cheap place to retire to. No income tax, low taxes, low cost of living. Plus, it's easy to go back and visit home if you're from the midwest or east coast. You can drive to Orlando in a day and half or get there by plane in 3 hours. Especially if you're a snowbird. Not everyone has the desire nor the means to move to the Caribbean, which is a whole story moving to another country compared to just moving to a different state. Then there's cost and ease of traveling. It's a lot easier to get on a flight from Orlando to Detroit/NYC than going from another country and having to go through customs and such.
I've found that going through customs is a breeze and doesn't compare to the contortions you have to go through going through airport security and those contortions are for both domestic and international flights.
My experience with customs has mostly been coming from Canada and is rather tainted with my experiences with them (Having my car searched twice, them just being rude in general). So I was pleasantly surprised when I was coming home from Mexico and the US Customs agent was the most chill person I ever met and it only took 5 minutes. At least the Canadians have a sense of humor and are polite. Stern, but polite.
Agreed. Immigration and customs is nothing now - very easy. Going through security is ok with TSA precheck, but it must be absolutely awful without it.
The only time I've not had a breeze in getting through customs has been coming back into the US from Korea and Canada and it only comprised of extra questions.
Ages ago, when I was shopping for a new BBQ, the salesman advised me to get one that's suited for my day-to-day, not for that big terrace party I imagine having once a year. I found that to be good advice for a lot of things in life. Just sayin'. Yep, those pre-approval memberships like Global Entry makes customs a non-factor nowadays. TSA pre-check can still be a bit of hit-or-miss I find. Depends on the airport and luck. Nowadays so many people are members that sometimes the pre-check line is the longer one. But yeah, on average its shorter and you don't have to go through with the shoe removal nonsense.
I've had some awful experiences in LAX, but that is to be expected given how horrendous that airport is. I avoid it as much as I reasonably can. This summer I'm flying in and out of Vancouver to avoid it, even though I'll have to go through both Canadian and American immigration in Vancouver on the return. The worst example was when the arrival area was so full they put us into a large overflow room - and forgot about us. We were in it for 1-3 hours (I forget exactly how much now, but it felt like 3 hours so was probably only 1 or so). When they let us out there was virtually no one in the arrivals area waiting to be processed.
Having lived in the Caribbean, the cost of living is actually pretty high. First, a lot more than you imagine needs to be imported. Mostly boat (or plane), since truck transport is not an option. Items that are normally inexpensive, like rice, shampoo or toothpaste, cost more on that alone. Local goat and plantains were reasonable but slightly less so. Want to live in an area that has more access to items? More than likely that is a tourist destination and you pay tourist prices. Other items were nonexistent. I recall a volunteer wanting to have a Thanksgiving dinner for everyone, only to find out that turkeys were not a thing. Small things like that add up to a higher cost of living. As far as a more relaxed vibe goes. It is true until you need to get something done. Ever wait in a bank line 4 or 5 hours just to deposit a check and there 4 people are in front of you? I felt that the speed of how things get done is partially shaped on the country that colonized it. My legal residency/visa was always an issue due to red tape and how long it takes to get things done. By the time the paperwork was finalized and completed, I had a few months until I started the process over. Basic infrastructure is different to every island you go. Statia, decent internet but electricity went out on a weekly basis on the island and no reliable source of water. St Kitts - terrible everything (roads, internet, water, sewage, electric) outside of Basseterre. Saba - great roads but no internet (as of 2010). etc etc. Medical care. Honestly, since I lived near a medical school, full of Dr Nicks this was not an issue. But it was an issue on other islands. Doctors and dentists could visit once or twice/week. Transportation is tougher in between islands that I thought, unless you have a boat to get off island. I have been stuck in St Maarten overnight because there were not enough passengers going to Statia and it make more (economic) sense to lump the 2 passengers from the cancelled flight with the 4 for tomorrow's flight. And it's a 20-25 minute flight. The other side of that coin was to kick passengers off because there are too many people. These are common occurrences. Also it is almost the same cost (187$) to fly from DC/Orlando than Sint Maarten/Statia (215$). It's a great idea in theory, but the follow through is tricky.