2023/24 Off-Season/Transfers/Rumours

Discussion in 'Sporting CP' started by fdasilva, Apr 8, 2023.

  1. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I don't have any expectations for Varandas or Viana. They're two absolute clowns who manages to dismantle a title winning team and replace it with dog shit quality players. Hard to believe this team is 2 years removed from a title win.
     
  2. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
     
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  3. eurodad

    eurodad Member+

    Mar 15, 2005
    Brampton
    Hopefully you guys play this well and don’t sell below his value
     
  4. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    It's Varandas. He'll spread his ass cheeks and welcome the sodomy..
     
  5. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    All the reports have said that the deal will be for his clause but they want to negotiate how to pay for it.

    I wouldn't mind another deal for 60m and we brought in a Porro type loan signing with option to buy . PSG and Chelsea have tons of players they need to offload that would be great for us.
     
  6. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    The problem with those deals is that the loan option is never with a optional purchase clause. It's always a loan with no option which makes absolutely zero sense for us to do
     
  7. eurodad

    eurodad Member+

    Mar 15, 2005
    Brampton
    Yes and no . If the player has significant talent it could be the difference on the field. Maybe make it the CL finally and big funds

    for example , you going to say no to a promising striker ?
     
  8. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Promising? Yes. Well established and guaranteed to score and be a stud? No.

    Either way, it doesn't benefit the team long term. Sarabia was cool but the loan did nothing for us in the long run.
     
  9. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Yeah a Porro like deal would be good.

    Even big clubs are loaning players with options to buy.
     
  10. eurodad

    eurodad Member+

    Mar 15, 2005
    Brampton
    Take what you can get guys . The market is huge for strikers right now . Imo
     
  11. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    I saw news about 15M set aside for a striker, but these days strikers seem to be a rarity and good ones tend to be 20M+
     
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  12. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Chermiti and Essugo weren't called up to the U19 Portugal team but that's because Amorim wants them at the start of pre-season. Both are going to be part of the squad next season, and youngsters Afonso Moreira and João Muniz are also getting a shot at pre-season

    It's looking like the following players are set to be loaned out or sold:

    Fatawu (if he's not gonna play, a loan move could work)
    Rochinha
    Sotiris
    Vinagre
    Eduardo Quaresma
    Tiago Tomás
    Jovane

    I think the others are to be sold, although not sure what kind of bids we are expecting for Rochinha, Sotiris, Jovane or Vinagre. TT or Edu could be sold for a few million and a percentage of a future transfer, in case they improve down the road.
     
  13. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Finally some news about arrivals?

    Record and A Bola both reporting our target for striker is 24 year old Coventry City and Swedish forward Viktor Gyokeres. He finished the season with 22 goals and 12 assists in 50 matches, and he has 40 goals in the last 2 seasons. His transfer value on transfermarkt is 13M but they're expected to ask for up to 20M for him.

    Another name is Tariq Lamptey, for the RWB spot, from Brighton. We were already interested in January but he seems to be too expensive to buy, so we're looking at a loan move. I wouldn't mind a loan similar to Porro, with an option to buy.
     
  14. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Portuguese press reporting Ugarte to Chelsea is a done deal. He preferred Chelsea to PSG even though the French offered him a contract worth 5m a season, more than the 3.5m a year at Chelsea, as he prefers the Premier League. Chelsea will reportedly pay the 60m release clause and include 5m bonus if he completes certain objectives.

    Fabrizio Romano says it's not completely done but very close:

     
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  15. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    LOL this really is the silly season now. Chelsea are set to pull out of the race for Ugarte, after it was widely reported that it was basically a done deal. PSG came in with an improved contract for Ugarte which Chelsea apparently are unwilling or unable to match the salary.



     
  16. AlexJones19

    AlexJones19 Member

    Aug 2, 2015
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Can’t believe there’s not been more discussion about it in here… PSG have doubled the salary offer to Ugarte, but he was originally more interested in the offer from Chelsea.

    but here comes the fun part.. Chelsea wanted to include buying a stake in Sporting CP as part of any deal for Ugarte! Sounds like it all got a bit messy, definitely would’ve fallen foul of financial/transfer rules and so Chelsea pulled out. They are absolutely bat shit crazy now they’ve got a new owner
     
  17. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Insane but I feel it's just paper talk. Boehly is just a mess.

    Romano says Ugarte to PSG is done

     
  18. SCP21

    SCP21 Member+

    Jul 1, 2011
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Man these big clubs are ruining the game. Don’t know if I could still support Sporting if they just turned into a Chelsea B team. Already happened to Braga and guimaraes, only a matter of time until it happens to the big 3. Really unfortunate.
     
  19. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    I don't care about anything but winning. So as long as we're winning, who gives a shit. Sporting has shown the inability to be properly run and win consistently, so I couldn't care less about ownership.
     
  20. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    We already have a minority shareholder in Holdimo and in the last few years the club reacquired shares from many sources to have over 85% of shares. So I anticipate sooner or later selling a large chunk.
     
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  21. SCP21

    SCP21 Member+

    Jul 1, 2011
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    How would a sale work, do the socios have to approve it?
     
  22. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    I assume so
     
  23. Holy__Joe

    Holy__Joe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 31, 2007
    Manchester
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I thought it only comes down to that if it risks taking it below 50%+1
     
  24. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Record says we've made an initial offer of 12M + 3M in objectives for Viktor Gyokeres. Coventry wants 20M. He's apparently our #1 target for striker.
     
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  25. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Record says we bought another 10% of Ugarte for 2M, increasing our percentage to 80%. So a 60M sale would mean we keep 48M instead of 42M. Ugarte ends up costing us 12.5M euros total.

    They also say we are bidding to acquire another 40% of Pote's rights to own 90%. We'd pay 7-8M for it, which would make his total transfer to 13.5-14.5M.
     
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