The official "Some site says this guy is a Yank" detective work thread

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, May 23, 2013.

  1. fzzzy

    fzzzy Member

    Austin FC
    United States
    Jun 8, 2022
    According to a Caribbean scout / researcher who has been trustworthy in the past, Nathan Young-Coombes has a grandmother from America. His source was the player. Hard to say as always in these cases whether or not he'd even be eligible for the US. Young-Coombes is a striker and made one appearance for Brentford in '22 then went on loan last season with AFC Wimbledon in League Two scoring three goals over 11 appearances. He spent time with the youth academies of Crystal Palace, Chelsea, and Rangers before joining Brentford. He's still young for the position and has a bit of pedigree so probably worth tracking his progress. There's surely other options ahead of him, but with Toney missing the first half of the season maybe he can work is way into the squad during cup matches.
     
  2. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The interesting thing is that his US citizenship hinges on his mother/father. If that parent lived in the US for at least 5 years (2 after the age of 14), then Young-Coombes would likely be eligible for US citizenship (that's assuming the grandmother lived in the US long enough to pass on citizenship). But in most cases, since it's the grandmother and not the parent described as American, it's not likely the parent was in the US long (if at all). Most "granny cases" don't end up leading to a US passport.
     
  3. fzzzy

    fzzzy Member

    Austin FC
    United States
    Jun 8, 2022
    Indeed, this is very likely TAA, Charlie Mulgrew, Bradley Johnson, Ryan Strain etc. all over again. This information was discovered in the process of the scout trying to learn more about Young-Coombes Jamaican ancestry and his interest in playing for the Reggae Boyz. The scout knew I tracked players with connections to America, so he mentioned it to me. I don't really have anything past the fact that Young-Coombes apparently said his grandma was from America in the course of their conversation. I sent a follow-up query after it was mentioned but haven't heard anything back yet.

    Just passing along the information I had as I'm not really in a position to take it any further, and I haven't seen it pop up anywhere else. The most likely outcome is that he's not eligible to play for the US or we would have already heard his name considering he's played for England's U15,16, and 17 teams and is on the periphery of a Premier League squad. I know the US has improved at all levels recently, but he was player of the year and scored 34 goals for Brentford B in '22 and was off to a great start at Wimbledon in League Two before sustaining an injury. He has obviously caught the eyes of some pretty prestigious clubs already in his short career. Seems like someone that might be in the mix given the performances of our young strikers outside of Pepi.
     
  4. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
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  5. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another probable young Yank who just needs a little confirmation on citizenship:

    @ChuckMe92 tweeted this:



    And @Luksarus had previously tweeted this:



    TM profile says he is a Dutch-born dual US citizen: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/austyn-jones/profil/spieler/1135624
     
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  6. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    This is confirmed. Dutch-born, American parents.
     
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  7. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    He's there now:

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    https://nachwuchs.eintracht.de/u16/2022-2023/kader/

    https://nachwuchs.eintracht.de/u16/2022-2023/kader/william-marin/
     
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  8. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Don't really have much to add about this guy but noticed him at SV Oberachern, where he has a YA teammate in Alec Laible.
     
  9. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some smoke for Aboh possibly being US-eligible as he has re-posted Folarin Balogun into his new Instagram story. Aboh also has English and Nigerian eligibility per Transfermarkt. Perhaps he was born in the US to a Nigerian family and raised in England. Credit to Micah W on Twitter for spotting this.

    Aboh seems to have had a solid season with 8G+3A in 1044 U18 Premier League minutes and 3 goals in 647 U23 Premier League minutes.
     
  10. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A couple of more from Micah W:

    Brothers both at Blackburn Rovers
    James Edmondson
    Stephen Edmondson





    Neither TM profile shows US citizenship, but James' profile lists an ominous clue: Grandfather from the United States

    We know that American grandparent usually isn't enough for US citizenship unless Mom or Dad lived in the US for quite a while. And if one of them lived in the US, you'd usually name the parent as the citizen.
     
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  11. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Yeah, this is not encouraging (though I do love that Blackburn makes this kind of stuff easy to confirm on its site) by itself, but who knows:

    Edmondson's grandfather is from Florida and that means he's eligible to represent the USA as well as England.
    https://www.rovers.co.uk/players/u18/james-edmondson
     
  12. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    In a YouTube video, an agency says an '03 named Julio Cesar Arzu is American. It's not clear to me that he's at a club right now, though T'Markt says he was previously with Buhos in Ecuador. There's a retired Honduran player with the same name, which may be coincidence, but in any case that guy kind of muddies Google searches for this one.

    https://www.transfermarkt.de/julio-cesar-arzu/profil/spieler/1143895

     
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  13. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
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  14. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    I'm starting to mess around with the site https://www.bdfutbol.com/, which may or may not be useful at this time for locating new players but could be down the line. (I'm seeing some potential issues with the data, so it may be more useful for leads than confirmation.) Anyone familiar with it?
     
  15. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
  16. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Looks like Bennet Packheiser is or was back in Germany recently with a lower-division club called Aasee. He has a brother named Leon who also seems to have played in Germany.

    https://www.transfermarkt.us/leon-packheiser/profil/spieler/196353

    And, obligatorily if incorrectly, another brother, Darryl.
     
  17. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Just re-upping, this was pretty epic both for its long-term value and its understatement.
     
  18. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  19. fzzzy

    fzzzy Member

    Austin FC
    United States
    Jun 8, 2022
    I'm guessing that's how they both ended up with American nationality in the Football Manager database. However those nationalities get set they're pretty good about incorporating information when it ends up on official team websites. I feel like we're getting to the point of needing a players with American grandparents thread or something. A bunch of these maybe (but probably not) Americans showing up lately. I'm guessing it will only be more frequent as the profile of the USMNT increases in the coming years. Especially in England where pathway has been provided by Balogun and Musah.
     
  20. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    If you posted here because you weren't sure if he was a citizen -- well, I haven't seen it clearly stated either way, but seems more likely than not, at least.
     
  21. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yale has his hometown as Saratoga, CA. So he spent timer there and played with De Anza Force. Not sure though.
     
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  22. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Some sites say QPR '04 Kieran Petrie is American. I don't believe he was born in the U.S., so I think it would need to be via parentage, but I haven't seen or found anything to back that up. T'Markt shows the flag of Montserrat.
     
  23. fzzzy

    fzzzy Member

    Austin FC
    United States
    Jun 8, 2022
    Twenty-one year old CB/RB Michael Kaufman recently transferred to the second team of Peruvian powerhouse Universitario. TM has him listed as a dual national American. Has a couple appearances in the cup competition as well as Liga 2. He's fairly highly rated in football manager relative to his league and age despite the lack of playing time currently. Might be one for the future.
     
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  24. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    From what I can sort of maybe tell, he was born in Peru, so this would I guess be either through parentage or I suppose residency?
     
  25. UniversalAdvice

    Apr 18, 2018
    #1425 UniversalAdvice, Jul 3, 2023
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2023
    Logging some from Transfermarkt that couldn’t easily have connections confirmed:
    • Marvin Dills - ’07 with Eintracht Frankfurt
    • Mohamed Ezz Eldin (seems to go by Simo) - ’03 GK with Egyptian giants Zamalek, formerly with Getafe and Leganes. Listed as being born in Colorado
    • Can Erdal - ’04 with setup of Turkish club Ümraniyespor (just relegated from the Super Lig). Listed with a New York birthplace
    • Danijel Sukara - ’04 midfielder in FK Zeljeznicar’s setup. Looks like a recent highlight video here but no mention of anything related to eligibility
    • Sami Mazen Dauleh - ’04 GK with Al Rayyan of Qatar. Was with Qatar U20s and made the bench for some Stars League matches
    • Sheung-Hei Poon - ’06 GK with Hong Kong U17s
    • Jeymer Díaz - Potential US/Puerto Rico/Bolivia eligible, seems to have gotten some hype on social media from Bolivian fans, was playing for Puerto Rico Sol, looks to have played some HS soccer in Virginia, now maybe in Bolivia
    • Santiago Pérez - ’04 GK with Monterrey that is listed as being born in Texas
    • Jesús Toledo - ’03 with Atletico San Luis U20s listed as being born in Texas
    • Luis Lee - ’03 with Mazatlan U20s listed as being born in California
     
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