Next Spurs Manager

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  1. Golara

    Golara Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    The club calls it a Leadership Committee made up of Lloris, Dier, Kane and Hojbjerg. The only leader in that group is Kane, the rest should be shown the door.

    But this is the group that has gotten all our recent managers the sack. Unfortunately, this is another area where Levy fails - he loves the players and will do anything to shelter them from criticism.
     
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  2. Testator

    Testator Member+

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    I'm honestly surprised Ange agreed to come, given the existence of such a committee and the tendency of Levy to protect the players.

    You are getting a tactical zealot who, while unwilling to go defensive, knows what kind of players he needs for his tactics. The problem is- any rough initial period of games could cost him the job. At Celtic, he lost the first 3 away games.
     
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  3. jumhed

    jumhed Member+

    Mar 26, 2001
    London
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Verbal contract with the Greek Aussie confirmed. Needs compensation with the Celts sorted now.
     
  4. Lazy Assed Assassin

    Jul 21, 2015
    Good. I don’t know if this guy is right, but a drawn out, embarrassing search was the last thing we needed - and at least it wasn’t Rodgers.
     
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  5. jumhed

    jumhed Member+

    Mar 26, 2001
    London
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Apparently he's an attacking manager, so hopefully we won't have to put up with anymore horrifically boring Jose Contéball ever again
     
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  6. jumhed

    jumhed Member+

    Mar 26, 2001
    London
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Fair.
     

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  7. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
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    Nov 3, 2001
    Indiana
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    The combination of his 'relative' deprioritization of defense with our dearth of quality at the back is a concern - and not a small one. It will color my thoughts on this appointment until the rubber hits the road (and probably beyond).

    But other than that, I've liked everything I've seen and read of him thus far (admitting that's its all come in the last month, as I knew nothing of him prior). If it's Postecoglu, I'll have no problem at all getting behind the bloke and the appointment.
     
  8. Testator

    Testator Member+

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    Get ready for centre backs who may not be tall- he doesn't care for that typical requirement. The greatest problem would be defending the wide areas, since full backs will tuck inside.
     
  9. Funkfoot

    Funkfoot Member+

    May 18, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    Fabrizio Romano, who is usually pretty reliable, says there is verbal agreement on 2 year deal with option for a third year. Compensation for Celtic needs to be worked out.

    Git 'r done. There is sooooo much work to do overhauling this squad.
     
  10. Golara

    Golara Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    I think this appointment shows where we are as a club and shines a light on Levy's ineptitude as chairman.

    Postecoglou is the kind of appointment worthy of a club like Everton or Crystal Palace. We had carte blanche to get someone like Pochetinno, Nagelsmann or Slot, but once again Levy couldn't deliver and took the easy way out, going after a small fish after blowing better options.

    I wish the geezer all the best, but the two-year contract tells me that if it goes pear-shaped, the Aussie will be the latest big winner on the Levy Dole Line.
     
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  11. Phillyspur

    Phillyspur Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Mar 18, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I got an Uber yesterday, and the driver was the splitting image of Poste... Posto... Big Ange.

    Make of that what you will.
     
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  12. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
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    Nov 3, 2001
    Indiana
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    'Once again'? Ok. That's fair enough in the case of Nuno. But you are aware that the other two of Levy's last three managerial appointments were Jose Mourinho and Antonio Conte, no? Not really 'going after small fish after blowing better options', that. Why not just say his last three appointments have sucked ass? You'd be on more solid ground.

    Levy's made (only) three solid managerial appointments in his time at Spurs. None of them were big fish. But there have been big fish ... and they've all failed. It's not a terribly good measure of the hire.

    You know, you don't have to proclaim another 'light shone on Levy's ineptitude' every time a firefly's ass glows.
     
  13. Funkfoot

    Funkfoot Member+

    May 18, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    I think Ange has a much greater likelihood of 1) staying around for a while and 2) playing some attractive football than either Mourinho or Conte. And he's not acting like he's doing us a favor by coming in to manage. I think it could be refreshing.
     
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  14. Golara

    Golara Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    You do realize you are defending a chairman who, since the beginning of the 2019-20 season, has churned through 6 different coaches and who has not had one of them enjoy a full season in charge?

    That to me and many others is ineptitude, but I guess you will find some extenuating circumstances to pardon him.
     
  15. Golara

    Golara Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    I would love to see this Leadership Group blown up, whoever is the manager. This is what led to Pochettino's demise. There were a few he wanted to ship out but Levy blocked him. This is what happens when you have a chairman who knows nothing about football interfering in football affairs. Poch was in an untenable position at the start of the 2019--20 season.
     
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  16. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
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    Nov 3, 2001
    Indiana
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    That fairly sums it up. I, too, think every managerial decision since Poch has been wank. But what I consider other, highly significant, aspects of being the chairman of a massive organization, you consider 'extenuating circumstances'.
     
  17. SF19

    SF19 Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    Yay a Greek manager.
     
  18. Golara

    Golara Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Opa!
     
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  19. Golara

    Golara Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    The extenuating circumstances are what he gets paid 3.2 million quid a year to do (plus bonuses). So I would certainly hope he does those aspects well at that rate.

    Unfortunately he has made a disastrous mess of running the football side of the operation and that is there for all to see.
     
  20. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    Who did Poch not like?
     
  21. adrenaline11

    adrenaline11 Member+

    Jul 29, 2010
    Toronto
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
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    Canada
  22. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
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    Nov 3, 2001
    Indiana
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    I'm not sure it was down to Poch 'not liking' players as much as Poch having ideas as to who needed to be moved on for whatever reasons, i.e., age, contract status, etc. There were definitely issues with Eriksen, Alderweireld, (I think) Dier, maybe? ... possibly more. Golara is exactly right when he says that Levy prevented the kind selling/refreshing that Poch wanted. I'm not sure it's the case that the players' Leadership Group is what influenced Levy on this account. I'd be more inclined to put that down to Levy seeing these players as assets, doing a cost/benefits analysis, and reaching different conclusions than his manager. And, of course, backing his own analysis rather than the gaffer's. That's what's making Golara (and everyone else) incandescent about Levy not leaving footballing decisions to the 'football people'.

    But even if the Leadership Group didn't necessarily affect those decisions during Poch's tenure (and maybe they did), the Leadership Group is still an awful idea for pretty much the same reason. When players are able to go directly to the chairman, they are at some level undermining the manager by doing so. Simple as that.
     
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  23. Funkfoot

    Funkfoot Member+

    May 18, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    The more I read about Ange, the more I like. Let's hope he gets the time he needs to make things work.
     
  24. Golara

    Golara Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    The Leadership Group is going to be one of the biggest problems AP will have to deal with in his inbox.

    It is abundantly clear that Lloris and Dier should be shown the door, but they have been protected by Levy. I am convinced this is one of the reasons Slot turned us down, as he was warned that the players were protected by the chairman (Conte broadly hinted at this in his farewell tirade - 'The players - where are the players?').

    I see reports now that he has signed a 4-year contract. That makes more sense, he is going to need a lot of time to sort out the hot mess Levy has left him.
     
  25. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
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    Nov 3, 2001
    Indiana
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    I agree that its time to move on from both, but what do you base that 'protected by Levy' bit on? They've both been started regularly by all of the recent managers.
     

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