Post-match: Colorado Rapids - San Jose Earthquakes (Saturday, 6/3) postgame thread [R]

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by Goodsport, Jun 3, 2023.

  1. Kaitlyn

    Kaitlyn Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 25, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That might be a bit too ambitious for us.

    However we've had a few CBs pull of the bicycle in our time, Michael Emenalo did them often, so did Mauricio Wright. Even big John Doyle did a tricycle.
     
  2. hc897

    hc897 Member+

    May 3, 2009
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I love being wrong. Daniel showing why the Quakes picked him and that's fantastic. I think Marcinkowski is a perfectly good goal keeper and was fine with him starting, but good to see a player that the Quakes went after really show they are worth it
     
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  3. SJTillIDie

    SJTillIDie Member+

    Aug 23, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Daniel proving me wrong.

    Who committed the turnover prior to the penalty? God that was terrible... as soon as that ball turned over I said to myself we were in trouble... tons of numbers committed forward and caught out.

    Two points dropped in the end.
     
  4. DotMPP

    DotMPP 'Quakes fan in Stumptown

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jun 29, 2004
    SE Portland, OR
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That pony's been lose for months
     
  5. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    My daughter compared his hair to a pipecleaner. It's not an attractive look in my opinion. Our team has much better hair.
     
  6. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #56 JazzyJ, Jun 5, 2023
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    BTW, having watched Heath Pierce in the pregame, has anyone seen Heath Pierce and Jimmy G in the same room? Because.... And they even sound very much the same.

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  7. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I watched a little bit of Fraser's postgame to see what he had to say about the game. Predictably he was upset about the red, and was complaining about an uncalled red the week before.

    But watch at about 1:40. Someone is trying to ask something like how will Bombito learn to better manage his game or something like that, and Fraser was not having it(!) (pretending to "not understand the question") because he didn't think Bombito did anything wrong. So he kept making the guy restate the question until he was finally beaten down enough to rephrase the question to be something else, to Fraser's liking - i.e. how is the team going to help pick up Bombito (or something like that). It was peak passive-aggression :). Brutal.

     
  8. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Similar to most of you, I will take 4 points in two road games. However, we should have won this game. Came down to finishing. We had two shots go off the bar and Akapo wiff on a perfect cross towards the end of the game. I think that I was most upset at Akapo's miss.

    Daniel MOTM again. Team played decent, but really struggles with Monteiro in the middle. Frankly, Yuell has been average after a great start for the season. We don't have enough talent to breakdown teams in the slow build approach that is Luchi' strategy. It would be great if we could counterattack, but we can't.

    We are paying for our lack of quality depth. Hopefully with the return of Cowell and Nikko, we can see more subs and earlier.
     
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  9. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  10. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Pretty good! When's the last time a Quakes CB tried one? Muma maybe? I think he used to kick it over his head while he faced our own goal but I don't know if he ever tried a bike.
     
  11. bostero24

    bostero24 Member

    Jun 27, 2008
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    Hopefully Niko & Cowell will help, but that's putting quite a bit of pressure on a couple of kids...
     
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  12. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Unlike playing an international tournament in South America. :)
     
  13. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep. Also, traveling to Argentina for the tournament is going to take something out of them in the near term.
     
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  14. bostero24

    bostero24 Member

    Jun 27, 2008
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    Haha c'mon Don they were playing against other kids. They're coming back to a grown men league...
     
  15. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    What does the age of the competition have to do with "pressure"?

    They were representing their country on the international stage. Here they're just playing for the Quakes in the friendly confines of PayPal, where most the crowd is indifferent to the outcome of the game, just as they would be at a San Jose Giants minor league baseball game.

    The competition might be tougher, but the "pressure" is reduced.
     
  16. bostero24

    bostero24 Member

    Jun 27, 2008
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    And failed I must add. The US20 were the better overall team. Even here in Uruguay they thought the US20 were not only a better team but were favorites to win. After all Uruguay were missing a few starters. Only had 5 bench players.
     
  17. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Pressure got to them. :)
     
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  18. bostero24

    bostero24 Member

    Jun 27, 2008
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    Well I disagree. US20 is basically a showcase for Europe. Of course you want to represent and win. If you think playing in the friendly confines of PayPal is enough, maybe that's what's lacking in the Americas mentality. You get paid playing for your club, playing for your country is the cherry on top.
     
  19. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
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    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Funny that Fraser made it very clear that he wasn't going to answer any questions he didn't like -- it wasn't that he didn't understand.

    His whining about the referees was also not a good look.
     
  20. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Yeah, that was the passive aggressive thing - "I don't understand your question". The poor guy kept trying to rephrase it but he'd shoot it down until the guy finally changed the question, and to save face tried to make it sound like it was the question he wanted to ask the whole time. Fraser then praised him for submitting to him. I think Fraser was just in a bad mood and wanted to take it out on someone.
     
  21. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
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    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I don't know if I'd call it passive aggressive. It wasn't subtle at all, since he made it clear that he DID understand the question but he sure wasn't going to answer it! Passive aggressive might have been something like "sure, we all have a lot to learn -- you seem like someone who has a lot to learn too!"
     
  22. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #72 JazzyJ, Jun 5, 2023
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    To me it seems like passive aggressive because he's pretending not to understand the question, making the guy restate it, and then pretending not to understand again. It's indirect, which to me is what passive aggressive is. He's torturing the poor guy under the guise of "I don't understand your question". If you don't agree with the premise of the question just say you don't, rather than "I don't understand", encouraging the person asking to try to rephrase, only so that you can shoot him down again.
     
  23. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Fraser could definitely take some tips from the Dave Kaval school of interviewing -- if you get a question you don't want to answer, just pretend it was another question you want to answer, and answer that one. No need to try to humiliate a hapless reporter.
     
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  24. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #74 JazzyJ, Jun 5, 2023
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    Hah, yes. And I think there are a few politicians who do that too :).

    Anyway this seems to be a thing with many MLS coaches or probably coaches in general. They make some kind of attempt to be gracious - here he's commending the team's effort, etc. but in the end they just can't help themselves. And they're halfway there, or sometimes almost there, but then in the end, it has to be someone else's fault. The same with Cherundolo. He congratulated Leon and said that his team needs to strive to be better (he was almost there!), but in the end, nope, just couldn't help it - he blamed MLS salary cap.

    This is one of the things I appreciate about many of the Quakes coaches. Luchi doesn't do this, and neither did Covelo, Dom, or Frank before them as far as I remember. If we lose, well, we lost and we need to do better. It's not someone else's fault. Dom used to just say, about the refs, even when a call didn't go our way, well they have a tough job. Luchi will sometimes question a call postgame but it's almost as an aside and he doesn't make a big deal out of it, and sometimes will say he's not sure - he needs to look at it on tape.

    I think it actually does a disservice to the team. When a call doesn't go their way they may start thinking about the call the way that their coach is modeling to them, rather than just focusing on playing.
     

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