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Discussion in 'Elections' started by ceezmad, Nov 7, 2020.

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Who will be the 2 Candidates for the 2 big parties in 2024

  1. Joe Biden

    31 vote(s)
    59.6%
  2. Kamala Harris

    13 vote(s)
    25.0%
  3. Bernie Sanders

    1 vote(s)
    1.9%
  4. Ted Cruz

    1 vote(s)
    1.9%
  5. Donald Trump (from prison)

    20 vote(s)
    38.5%
  6. One of the Trump idiots

    4 vote(s)
    7.7%
  7. A Never Trump Republican

    2 vote(s)
    3.8%
  8. The dude from Florida (not florida man)

    6 vote(s)
    11.5%
  9. A Trumpian Republican

    10 vote(s)
    19.2%
  10. Hail Grimes!

    8 vote(s)
    15.4%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Who is Dominic Montanaro?

    Does Lindsay not count????
     
  2. soccernutter

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    Listen to the NPR Politics Podcast. A number of us have been bashing him for years.
     
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  3. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    What does Lindsey Graham have to do with that post?

    What was your point in asking that question?
     
  4. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

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    Does anyone know the rating or leaning of the Harvard/ Harris poll?

    I am not sure if this is the same company as the Harris interactive people (B rated) or someone else.

    They have Trump over Biden, but Biden over Desantis. (Tied)


     
  5. soccernutter

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    I have serious questions about this poll

    Every single Dem but Sanders has a negative. Most Reps are positive.
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    Taken from https://harvardharrispoll.com/
     
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  6. Kazuma

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    Pardon my ignorance but: Aren't polls still conducted by landline? Who under 65 still has a landline?

    During the 2022 midterms I stopped taking polls seriously for that reason among other things.
     
  7. soccernutter

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    Nope. Most polls are by phone number, not inherently landline. There is a currently a significant effort even get away from phone calls, and there are a couple of major pollsters (one being Trafalgar, I think) who are tying to do something via text or internet.

    PlanetMoney gets into it a bit
    https://www.npr.org/2022/11/04/1134434712/planet-money-tries-election-polling

     
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  8. rslfanboy

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    The good ones don't completely rely on it.

    Pollsters are having a really hard time accounting for "voluntary response bias," because younger people just don't respond like older generations have traditionally.
     
  9. Dr. Wankler

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    Most, but not all. LOL Mitch McConnel, who is generating some Putin-like numbers.
     
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  10. dapip

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    It just reflects how uniform messaging is in the right wing nutosphere. Besides those who have national recognition, (Biden, Harris, Trump, Pence, Clinton, Sanders, Putin) almost no one in that list total is close to 90%. However since RW media is very good at creating villains the negative numbers for AOC or Schumer are over 40%; OTOH, except people that’s into politics, few democrats, or people who isn’t represented by, have an opinion about Scott or Haley, or even Manchin and Sinema.

    I still remember that until the 2020 election, pundits would accuse democrats of appealing to identity politics, because their ideas were unpopular. Yeah, after 2016 the GQP gave away any pretense of being the party of ideas, and since the few real policies that they pursue are disliked by most, all they’re left with are lies and demonizing the opposition.
     
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  11. soccernutter

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  12. superdave

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    Sununu out.

    He's one of the only guys I was afraid of.
     
  13. ceezmad

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    New candidate.

    You got to love the comment from a Green Party supporter looking down on the People's Party.


     
  14. Sounders78

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    He never stood a chance in the Trump Party race.
     
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  15. Dr. Wankler

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    Well, he did call me "Brother Dave" when he visited a grad seminar I was in, and he was pretty damn good in a cameo on 30 Rock. On the other hand, he's still pissed about Obama never consulting him after the election in 2008.
     
  16. charlie15

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    What the ******** is wrong with those Tech Bros? Are these guys always high? or high on their own supply of bullshit? Jack endorsing Robert Kenny Junior.....

     
  17. dapip

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    Well, they aks the very important questions, like why the government should keep their paws of crypto secondary markets.
     
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  18. EvanJ

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    In a poll released on May 8, voters could approve of any amount of Republicans. Trump led, but by not as big a margin over DeSantis as in polls to pick one. https://changeresearch.com/post/republican-presidential-primary-poll/ says:

    Trump: 75 percent
    DeSantis: 67 percent
    Haley: 35 percent
    Scott: 26 percent
    Pence: 16 percent
    Ramaswamy: 16 percent
    Christie: 8 percent
    Hutchinson: 5 percent
    Not sure: 5 percent

    55 percent approved of Trump and DeSantis, 19 percent approved of Trump but not DeSantis, 12 percent approved of DeSantis but not Trump, and 14 percent approved of neither. Among voters who approved of neither, Christie was above Pence and Ramaswamy. I read that tonight Christie is expected to announce he is running.
     
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  19. Q*bert Jones III

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    You think Chris Christie is capable of running? In my opinion, he's far more likely to roll.
     
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  20. dapip

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    No labels is a trick on democracy:

     
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  21. superdave

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    I wonder which Republican candidate will say something like this in a debate: We can’t have a president that our allies won’t trust. We can’t have a president who (summarize the first impeachment.). We can’t have a president who (this indictment). Because if we do, we’ll be all alone in the world because our allies won’t share information with us.
     
  22. soccernutter

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    They have to qualify for the debate first.
     
  23. Dr. Wankler

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    They will have to actually HAVE a debate first. I can see the GOP doing this whole thing via social media and never once having the candidates in the same place at the same time addressing the same audience.
     
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  24. dapip

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    Twitter Spaces!!!
     
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  25. dapip

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    MySpace!
     

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