Oath Keepers founder sentenced to 18 years in Jan. 6 seditious conspiracy case Stewart Rhodes, who said after the Capitol attack that the rioters “should have brought rifles," received the longest sentence of any Jan. 6 defendant to date. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ju...ears-jan-6-seditious-conspiracy-cas-rcna85852 "He also celebrated Oath Keepers' actions in the immediate aftermath of the attack, after meeting with other members of the group at an Olive Garden in Virginia that night."
“I never have said this to anyone I have sentenced: You pose an ongoing threat and peril to our democracy and the fabric of this country,” District Judge Amit Mehta told Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes before ultimately sentencing him to 18 years for seditious conspiracy.
Too little. The prosecution wanted 25, minimum 20, either of which would have been consistent with sentencing guidelines. Give his age, it probably won't make much difference in the sense that his working life will be over by the time he's released, but for offences against the state of that kind you give him the max, and in a maximum security facility (maybe even a Super Max). Then you hope that he's forgotten about so that he has no political life either after he's released. Like somebody said, the answer to the "who shot Ashli Babbit?" question is "a patriot".
Agree. 100%. They should all receive the maximum sentences under law. If he was Muslim, he would have. However, as disappointed that this prick is not going away for 25 years, I am glad that these convicts are finally receiving significant prison sentences, considering the first batch of them were given incredibly light sentences (trespassing and the like). That is disgusting. She, like every one of those bastards, should have been arrested, on the spot if possible, tried, convicted and sentenced to prison. The police should not shoot suspects to death. Extrajudicial killing is wrong in almost all cases. Babbitt deserved to rot in prison, not rot in the ground.
Not a contradiction at all. In certain self defense situations, in limited extreme cases, killing someone may be justified. Ashley Babbit was not an actual threat (of imminent death) to anyone. She was, by all accounts, committing a crime. For that, she should be arrested and tried and convicted and sentenced, just like the rest of the insurrectionists are. THAT would be the "patriotic" thing to do. Just killing her was not. No contradiction there.
She was at the front line of an out-of-control mob that was breaking through barricaded doors to attack the officer who shot her, several of his colleagues, plus a number of congressmen and staffers who had nowhere to retreat to. That's a matter of record. Had she got through she'd undoubtedly have helped others through and unbarricaded those doors. Arresting her was so dangerous as to be impossible. Shooting her was protecting others as well as personal self-defence.
Nope. It should not work like that. Killing her to "protect others" in NOT justification or self defense, when she was not a threat. Don't even go down that road. See, this is the bastardization of the "self defense" rule. I object to extending it this far out. Your "she'd undoubtedly have helped others through and unbarricaded those doors" is the sort of stupid, fascist "future crime" bullshit used to justify all manner of extrajudicial killing and militarization of the police. We cannot and do not prevent potential crimes by killing people. It is NOT how the criminal justice works. Just stop with that nonsense. Look, I am not going to defend Ashley f'n Babbit. She was involved in felonious behavior, but she should not be killed. If killing her was "patriotic," why didn't those "patriots" just open fire on the everyone, especially the ones who were, actually, armed with weapons? That would have "protected others," wouldn't it? No, on second thought, I am not going to continue this nonsensical, facile discussion with you. I have way better things to do with time.
Happy Memorial Day. F**k the MAN! https://www.pbs.org/video/memorial-day-massacre-workers-die-film-buried-3hzo89/
“Critics called it class warfare.” Libertariansm and Fascism aren’t classes but they goddamn do deserve war.
We’ll be sharing SF with the Bears forever, or at least until some dumbass suburb hands over buckets full of taxpayer money to build a stadium for them. If we took all of the subsidies we give to sports teams and corporate campuses and combined them, we could solve so many damn problems. https://www.fieldofschemes.com/2023...ax-bill-threaten-to-move-to-different-suburb/
Oh it’s a travesty. The amount of money that could have completely solved the homeless and healthcare problems in the city being funneled into billionaires pockets to do their job for them? How about no? Pay for your own ********ing stadium and if it’s not profitable go out of business. Free market right? Imagine spending that money to build affordable housing on the south side or improving/expanding the cta so people can get better paying jobs without access to cars?
Ding ding ding! WINNER. Just today, the Buffalo Bills broke ground on their $1.2 billy publicly funded stadium in New York. Now, $1.2 bill won’t solve all of the problems of most municipalities but it will definitely help - hell, give it out as grants to small business owners if you have to prop up capitalism but a giant stadium that will be used 10-30 times a year in most cases ain’t solving shit. And the owners could pay for the stadiums themselves, but show me a billionaire that isn’t greedy and … well, you can’t, cuz they wouldn’t be a billionaire if they weren’t greedy. Anyone thinking that the Bears aren’t looking for as many free handouts as they can possibly get is mistaken- hell, the way things are the Bears would be dumb not to, and that’s the thing that makes me wish I wasn’t sports fan more than just about anything else.
Donald Tr*mp indicted by the DOJ for taking classified documents and obstruction of justice. Apparently, there are 7 charges, including espionage charge!
Illinois Supreme Court Upholds Measure Designed to End Cash Bail A law ending cash bail was supported by Democratic legislators and Gov. J.B. Pritzker but challenged by prosecutors who said it would make the state less safe. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/18/us/illinois-cash-bail-ruling.html Every once in a while the racists lose.
Trump charged in probe of Jan. 6, efforts to overturn 2020 election https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/01/trump-indictment-jan-6-2020-election/
If Trump goes to jail what is more likely? He’s broken out Fast Five style or murdered immediately? Or he puts a imperious curse on whoever is running as republican?
Tricky Dick keeps looking better every day. Those Republicans back then had the balls to tell the President that his time was up and Richard Nixon was gracious enough to do the right thing and leave. I don't want to think about what could happen if and when this goes to trial. Too many stupid people out there.
No, Nixon looks worse every day. Read Nixonland or the countless other books about Nixon's time in office. Nixon had Ford to pardon him BEFORE even an impeachment was launched, to say nothing of criminal charges. He would not have resigned without that assurance. Of course, Trump had Pence who would have pardoned him in a heartbeat, as well...if Trump stepped aside. Trump could not do that. His ego would not allow that. The differences between Nixon and Trump are that Nixon was smart and an experienced politician. Trump is neither of those things. Nixon knew what he was doing and knew how to play the system. Fortunately for the sake of our democracy, Trump does not.
I agree that Nixon was not a good person for what he did, but I see can't believe all of the sycophants in DC that are falling all over themselves to continue to support Trump. I hope this forces a big reset in American Politics, but I know that I am only dreaming.
Gosh, I’m just stunned that FOX of all places decided to acquire the Saudi Pro League. Shocked I tell you, shocked. https://t.co/jM8smyUu3o— Jacob Schneider (@_jacobschneider) August 10, 2023