They played well overall in this game. Some of them will be in the U17 WC. People sometimes overreact when they play badly but they all have the talent. What happened in that game was that some players were not used in their positions
Who? What happened in the Netherlands game is that they were faster and stronger and simply better. It's okay to admit that.
I don't remember much from that game. Maximo Carrizo, Axel, and many more were not in their best positions we also don't have a winger or a number 9 in that first half. Yes they were better.
There is a shortage of wide attacking players in the group (remember Berchimas is an 08). There were two 9s on the roster, Santos and Glover, but Glover had to be dropped due to injury. I think both Santos and Glover are pretty good prospects. Plus Ezekiel Soto is an 07 playing with the U-17s.
The Argentina call up seems to have created a sense that he deserves more than he’s getting from US Soccer. When in reality there’s no guarantee that he ever plays a real role with Argentina. I can understand being frustrated about his son’s role, but it’s with a team playing together for the first time and where he’s playing up. It’s not as if this is going to be the norm. But if he doesn’t want to be part of US Soccer there’s not a ton you can do about it.
Based on my sources and Twitter. I don't get the sense that his dad doesn't only wanna see his son play for Argentina. Carrizo's dad only wanna see his son play for NYFC for more minutes and decide on his future later. Which I can respect.
I think it goes without saying that a player's development happens with his club. However, for some guys national team glory means everything. Both can be true.
You're being generous. It's ignoring the sniping at other youth players to make his son look better. It's ignoring that this is at least the second time he's threatened to go with Argentina if his sons doesn't get PT. If he simply wants to see his son play and develop and he'll make his national team decision later, he wouldn't be posting all over twitter, wouldn't be trying to force US Soccer's hand, and wouldn't be putting down other youth players. He's a grown ass adult. You don't have to have emotional outbursts on twitter.
I don't think hyping up your own son on Twitter is a great idea. Let maximo carrizo make his own hype like what cavan sullivan is doing. Also when parents have a Twitter and talk about soccer it also does not help their careers out.
The USYNT U16s (2007s) will hold a camp at the Nike World Headquarters until October 8th pic.twitter.com/F34CIJISmP— Youth Soccer Central (@yscentral) October 3, 2023
He did go to an Argentina camp since the last U16 camp in Japan. At this point he probably realizes a U17 callup isn't happening so keeping both irons in the fire makes sense. Also - the father's twitter rant happened while his son was still in Japan and they presumably had not had time to discuss the experience. I would say it's possible that Carrizo's experience was overall positive and he was more than happy to continue with the USA U16s for the time being. NYCFC's MLS Next Pro season is over too, and with the first team in the thick of the hunt for the playoffs Carrizo isn't getting game time domestically. So of course it makes sense to go with the U16s.
1/5th from the West Coast and only one of those new. Not wow'd by the scouting with no surprises or "oh, yeah, we've missed him, great find!" GKS: All three GKs returning and two from Chicago (where USSF offices are). They're not bad by any means, but I thought Mo struggled against Wales and not sure either Patrick or Patryk physically have the profile to be a USMNT player. I'd love to have seen all new call ups in goal. Hodges from Crew (but is he fast enough), Phili's keeper, Keenan at Portland, Kell/Auffret at LAFC, etc. I don't think Stokes, McKay or Bonos, as 08s could but Stokes at least has the resume. RSL, Austin, LAG and NYRB are all riding on 2008 keepers which doesn't strengthen the 2007 class. Orlando City can't keep a keeper and Miami's top 2007 left for RSL a year ago. Defense: Santiago is the best RB in the 07 class and I'd love to see him locked into the Red, White and Blue. Etienne is a winger just listed wrong there. Otherwise, nice to see some rotation in CB to continue to expand the pool. I think Atlanta's defense had strong leadership in it so I think that will be a good addition. Midfield: I feel like there's a blend of new/old in the midfield so... happy to see that. This isn't an international camp with games (like the u17s in Brazil). Glad to see Snyder Burnell in. I do like Owen Anderson but haven't seen him play this season and how the addition of Petrie has affected the RSL midfield. Petrie and Leo were are Barca together and will play well off each other. Jude Terry is an 08 and was one of the best players at the u15 Concacafs. Kyrome has settled in at NCFC and seems like the move east was good for him. I know he will be very happy to be back in the fold after going from captain to missing out. Forwards: Glad to see some more mix of new/old. I like seeing Gozo and Veillard. I don't know Wiley out of NYRB but I am curious to see Glover and Santos up top. I think Noah Santos struggled early to adjust to moving to Timbers but has since settled in and is a strong player. Good for him. I think Rocket Ritarita is a good player. Curious if he will play the 10 or up top.
His words shouldn't be taken so literally. What I've been told is that he's maintaining that it's his son's decision and both teams are options. I think more than anything his father doesn't like Youth National Team camps for any country. He thinks they are a waste of time, but if it's not his choice, it makes sense that his son wants to experience these camps for Argentina and USA before making a final decision. It's probably going to be Argentina, if he gets his choice. It's probably the same situation for Cremaschi. We shouldn't expect to beat them for players, but I think both are options. I do get where you're going with that, but I very much don't think this is another Brady/Slonina situation. The '07 age group has very weak goalkeeping. I feel like Campagnolo you could argue could be on that trajectory, and then the rest are a major step down from that. Not sure if I was looking for some big breakout candidates either that Stechnij or Los would be the players I'd say have major upside. Only my opinion. I hope I'm wrong.
I'm pretty sure Cremansci isn't Argentina NT level, would be a huge mistake on his part to take that path, as he might be good enough for us. Not sure about Carrizo, athletically he will be adequate at best, and that's not a great starting point. Is his talent high enough to overcome that?
I'm really not sure where the idea that Carrizo is somehow a lesser athlete came from. He's very athletic for a 15 year old. He's just constantly next to pro guys at this point. He's quick, strong, low center of gravity. Not a Berchimas level burner of course but very few players are at this level. You can compare him to teammate Johnny Shore, who is a year older and not nearly as physically developed. He's certainly ahead of where someone like Cruz Medina was at 15 (and may be ahead of him now.) Now, he hasn't had as much impact in MLS Next Pro as I had hoped this season. My opinion is that he's a little bit behind the speed of the pro game mentally. The windows close a lot faster, his time on the ball is shorter. He's technically very strong but his release always feels just a hair behind or hurried. I feel confident he will get there but unlike Berchimas or Kei he doesn't have grown man athleticism at 15 so it's a harder road.
Santos has played with Timbers since U15s, where he started his MLS career, playing up a year. He's still playing with 17s, and scoring sensational goals so far this season. Not sure what you're referring to re moving and settling in...unless you mean when he started also appearing for T2 this year?
I'm not saying you're wrong about what he projects as, but I think it's very challenging to know. I don't know of an instance in the past 3 seasons where Carrizo has played against 08's. If you're at best an average athlete and you're younger than your competition at youth levels, it's going to play in games as below-average. What has to be done is projecting what it looks like at higher levels when he's not at that physical/athletic maturation disadvantage. The easiest way to do that is what a player looks like against players their own age, but he doesn't play against players his own age, so it's very difficult to judge for him. That year or two disadvantage when he plays U-17 MLS Next is still a big gap for players this age. Essentially, all the 08's/09's that got time with the U-17's last season were no better than average in this area. Only three exceptions were Berchimas, Cupps, and Hamouda who are all physically/athletically advanced earlier than most. You use the example of Shore, but how do we know he isn't going to be weak in those areas too? I would actually slightly disagree about that too. I have little doubt Carrizo is a lot more talented, but I think Shore is taller, stronger, and has no worse than similar speed. Shore is listed at 5'8 135. I can't find an accurate listing, but when NYCFC signed Carrizo in February 2022 they listed him at 5'3 120. Did he grow 5 inches and gain 15 pounds in a year and a half? I suspect he's taller and stronger than when he signed, but I still think Shore is superior in these areas. Medina is only 5'7. That seems accurate. Maybe he's a little taller now at 5'8 or 5'9. You're right that he's still physically weak, yet I'd argue Medina has a burst to accelerate past adult pros that Carrizo doesn't have yet. It could be a matter of time, but it's not there yet for Carrizo. He's more capable physically/athletically against pros this year than last. He can actually compete with them, but there are still moments they just body him off the ball easily. This is the inherent challenge for Carrizo, and why I'm only cautiously optimistic. I think he's the most naturally talented American prospect. He could end up the best American player, if this part isn't an impediment in the pro game. He probably knows where he stands relative to kids his own age, his family knows, NYCFC knows. Yet, for those of us on the outside, I think we'd be lying if we said we have a great grasp. He might end up 5'6 and slow or 5'9 with average speed. I think it's going to be the latter, but I say that without a ton of confidence.