North Carolina is as gerrymandered as Wisconsin. Politics would have to be very, very different from what they are today for the Dems to take the legislature. I mean, it’s currently about 52-48 for GOPs, I would say, and one seat flipping just gave the GOPs a (60%) supermajority.
Why is there a couple of State Court votes or something that could help things? What was it the one where even though it was later stated that it was done resurging like precision to disenfranchise the black vote the supreme Court allowed it anyway.
Not sure if this is a bellwether: Wow! In a stunning upset victory for the Democrats, Democratic candidate and former TV anchor Donna Deegan just DEFEATED the DeSantis-endorsed Republican candidate Daniel Davis in the race for Jacksonville, Florida mayor.She is the second Democrat to win a mayor's race there in… pic.twitter.com/ZEayvjGihY— MeidasTouch (@MeidasTouch) May 16, 2023
Democrat Donna Deegan Defeats DeSantis Disciple Daniel Davis The last election didn't even have a Democratic candidate.
BREAKING: In another MAJOR LOSS for Republicans, the Democratic-aligned independent candidate Yemi Mobolade has DEFEATED Republican Wayne Williams in the Colorado Springs mayoral runoff election.This is the second big flip away from the Republican Party tonight.Donald Trump… pic.twitter.com/MUmxttkXCU— MeidasTouch (@MeidasTouch) May 17, 2023
Colorado Springs switched to popular vote for mayor starting with the 1979 election, replacing city council appointment. They had never elected a non-Republican until tonight.
Utah GOP Rep Chris Stewart resigns, citing wife’s ongoing health issues. The Gov. has a week to set up a special election. I wonder how much more of a dickbag will replace him? He’s been there since the Tea Party.
Well I heard the GOP cut up SLC into 4 pieces and stretched the district border into the reddest suburbs to make each like plus 4 Republican
Happens every 10years. We also narrowly passed a referendum for an independent commission to draw the lines, and our Legislature just ignored it. The governor then said, if we don’t like it then we need to elect more Democrats. ********ers, the lot of them.
Is Salt Lake City a blue island that might be competitive for dems? I figured the whole state must be deep red.
Utah is a state I see trending blue in the next generation -- the rural Mormons are being offset by major demographic changes in SLC and already the metro is 1/3 the state population. If SLC hits 50% of the state and continues to trend blue, the state becomes competitive.
Absolutely. Salt Lake, Park City, and Price (mining town with history of Labor Activism) are all reliably Dem. We’ve had a random congressional Dem, but they tend to be moderate, or “Blue Dog” which isn’t a thing anymore. I really like to hear this, and you are probably seeing some stuff I am not, but I have a pretty hard time seeing Utah turn purple for Senate, Gov, and Presidential races in the next 20years. Mike Lee is a rather despised politician here, and still won by nearly 20pts.
Yeah, why wasn’t MLK marching for people to better count the number of pennies in the jar? It’s like me refereeing a Carolina-Dook game. Hey, Dookies, if you don’t want to foul out, stop committing the fouls I keep calling on you! Rigged game is rigged.
I was thinking Utah will become, in a generation, like GA is now, and how Illinois has always been - one big city dominates the state, politically. That said, it is probably closer to Colorado, which has Denver, Boulder, and the ski towns.
Start in 2000, the year when today's politics comes into focus. Gore loses the state 67-26, and loses SLC county 56-35. SLC D+20 (relative to state) Kerry loses the state 72-26, and loses SLC 60-38. SLC D+24 Obama loses to McCain 62-34, wins SLC by 0.1%! SLC D+28. Obama loses to Romney 73-25, loses SLC by 20. SLC D+28. Clinton loses to Trump 45-27, and wins SLC by 9. SLC D+27. Biden loses to Trump 57-37, and wins SLC by 11. SLC D+31. Meanwhile, the demographics of Utah: 2000 -- 2233169 statewide, 968858 SLC metro; 43.4% 2010 -- 2763885 statewide, 1124197 SLC metro; 40.7% 2020 -- 3271616 statewide, 1257936 SLC metro; 38.4% So just on the basis of SLC's metro, it looks like the state is outpacing. But if you look at the SLC Combined Statistical Area, SLC is 2.7 million of the state's 3.3 million people -- 84%!!! By contrast, in neighboring Colorado, Denver's CSA is 3.6 million out of 5.8 million -- 62%. What's happening? SLC suburbs are trending blue as well. Utah County went 67-26 Trump over Biden, but 82-14 to Bush in 2000. During that time, the county's population doubled. Davis County nearly doubles as well, and the margin shrinks from 73-21 to 60-33. The whole Wasatch Range could, in a decade, look like Colorado's Front Range. Democrats win the urban core by 20-25pp, and keep the suburbs to close margins. Take Colorado's Douglas County (where some of my family and Mrs Brummie's family all live). In 2000, the county was 176k and went 65-31 to Bush. In 2020 (358k), Trump carried it 52-45. Or El Paso County, where Focus on the Family and the Air Force Academy are, went from 517k to 730k and 64-31 to 54-43 from 2000 to 2020. IFF -- and that's a big IFF -- Utah follows Colorado's (and New Mexico's and Arizona's and Nevada's) trend of urban and suburban places moving left, then in twenty years we would expect to see Utah and Davis counties going 55-45 to Republicans, while Weber goes for Dems by ~5pp. I don't see that because of the water problem. Chicago can always be big because it's on the lake, surrounded by farmland, near shipping and railroads, etc. Salt Lake City is about to lose the lake, and it's not gonna be a boon for the state.
I remember roughly 30 years ago when Americans gloated about the short-sighted commies letting the Aral Sea disappear because of environmental neglect. They were just being trend-setters for us.
Thanks for the granular explanation. We can only hope that the transplants and the youths keep voting, and voting Dem. With how heavily the state is gerrymandered and how effective they are at depressing the vote by making us disillusioned with their skull********ery, I think the transition might be a little longer played out, but I want to be wrong. If the lake dries up, all the wealthy Dem coalition will leave. I’ll be wiped out. But maybe the people will be upset enough to change their vote?
Imagine Dragons A popular band that is Mormon and outspokenly pro-LGBT+. I think that will ultimately have a bigger effect on the state of Utah than people realize.
Along with the terrible stance on LGBT+, I think the whistleblowing on finances is having a huge affect.
Yes but if the LDS is going to become more like American Christians, their leadership is going to have to engage in more financial and sexual chicanery.