DCU v. Pink Flamingos 6/3/23

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  1. DCU

    DCU Member

    Feb 15, 1999
    Bay Area, CA
    So maybe that makes him even for the day?
     
  2. Yowza

    Yowza Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Oct 23, 2019
    Arlington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Had to have the 3 points, so that's good, but they look like they need a reset. They're good enough in the middle third but just atrocious in the final third. I hope they figure it out. Miami is in last place and down a man, that game was much too close.
     
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  3. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    I'm a big fan of Greene's, but he was awful last night. He was getting turned and literally running himself out of position at the end. Quite frankly, he looked like Dàjome on defense last night. Without Najar, the wingback situation on DCU is a mess.
     
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  4. revelation

    revelation Member+

    Dec 17, 1998
    FC St. Pauli
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Which is one of the things I hate about VAR. It feels that referees aren't making obvious but controversial calls (like a DOGSO red in the 5th minute) and waiting for VAR to bail them out or give them a second chance.
     
  5. revelation

    revelation Member+

    Dec 17, 1998
    FC St. Pauli
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Ugly match and funny because I thought we would play well but lose, instead we play poorly and win. So what matters, results or good play? The never ending debate around here.

    Hard to take much from this match in terms of analysis other than the obvious "urgency is an option" and "you want to put the ball inside the goal posts not in the general vicinity of the endline when shooting".
     
  6. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I had the same thought. Live, it was 100% DOGSO. Textbook. The only variable in my mind was the time…referees hate making big calls in the first 10 minutes of a match, like a red or a PK. Sure enough, he didn’t have enough sack to go red until VAR told him he had to.
     
  7. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    Totally agree on the VAR as a crutch. I remember Nyeman getting a DOGSO red by a tackle almost at midfield against NYCFC. Now, the field ref "defers" to the VAR ref. Problem is the VAR refs are the same clowns that also referee on the pitch, so Bozo I is hoping Bozo II will suddenly become competent. A metaphor for the way civilization will end.
     
  8. revelation

    revelation Member+

    Dec 17, 1998
    FC St. Pauli
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    So we agree to only vaguely and cryptically mention this match again...
     
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  9. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. GlennAA11

    GlennAA11 Member+

    Jun 12, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Luckily in this case the VAR was Kevin Stott who is probably the most experienced US referee ever. Not always my favorite referee, but he knows how it's all supposed to work
     
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  11. Cavan9

    Cavan9 Member

    Nov 16, 2011
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    After 5 games in two weeks where you just dropped two points at home and figured out how to get three points on the road? Take the three points. The stuff that this board perceives as issues can be worked out after the satisfaction of a plane ride home after a road win and a rest day.

    These guys are tired. They haven’t had more than one night at a time in their own beds for three weeks. They had alternating home and away games.

    Games like this where you are on the road against a wounded animal that is bunkering and trying to impress a new coach aren’t about who looks good tactically and who is being nice to who. They are about finding any way to get through the parked bus, get no injuries, prevent getting countered, then get the three points.

    Nobody will remember that they had a problem breaking down the bus or that Pines’s goal was ugly or that the two guys had a miscommunication in the left flank after being up 2-0. They’ll only remember the 3 points that open the door to playing playoff games.

    This wasn’t a soccer game in a conventional sense. It was a simple gut check. Dropped 2 points on Wednesday, on the road in Miami playing in the high humidity after a thunderstorm, against a team whose season is slipping away and was spirited with a possible New Coach Bounce, without one of your stars and another of your stars still not being 100% after injury… it was a simple matter of getting the job done or not. A playoff team gets the job done and a non playoff team does not.
     
  12. revelation

    revelation Member+

    Dec 17, 1998
    FC St. Pauli
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    This is exactly why we won't talk about the match again and just be content at three more points ..
     
  13. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We have all literally (used literally) talked about the match. Most of us think they sucked the great sucking. What else needs to be said. We came, we sucked, we won, go home. I am not a fan of an ugly win that doesn't show any progress or cohesion. We played better in games where we lost.

    That said - I'm not the FO and I'm sure they will take the W and move on.

    I think when we lose Najar we lose the right side, when we have to play Santos on the left we lose the left when we don't have cover speed for him. I haven't seen Jeahze in so long I'm not sure what he brings but he has to be better than Green and Santos.
     
  14. Yowza

    Yowza Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Oct 23, 2019
    Arlington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope they're not patting themselves on the back after this one, whew boy but we got the win! Nah, the last place team went down a man in the 7th minute and you spent the first half futzing around. And I gotta say it doesn't fill me with confidence when Rooney says he is pleased with the patience. There is a time for that, sure, but less patience is required when up a man for the majority of the match. I guess it's going to be a team built to keep it close and steal it, even if a more aggressive approach is at times more suitable.

    I'm complaining because they can be better. With this team, it seems if there's good it comes with bad. 26 shots? Hooray. 6 on target. Ugh.
     
  15. Cavan9

    Cavan9 Member

    Nov 16, 2011
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We can take the three points and move on while also acknowledging that there is lots of places to improve. It's not either-or.

    I'm glad they passed the gut check. I also agree that the transition from the middle third to the final third needs work.
     
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  16. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
     
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  17. PSURoss

    PSURoss Member+

    Sep 30, 2002
    DC Burbs
    That was my sense of the LAG game too. All combined with dropping pts the Canadian teams this last week makes the 2 pts vs Nashville & @PHL pleasing, but perhaps fools gold. Even if we make the playoffs, we'll almost certainly be on the road and get pasted in the first round. Or do we get a home game in the 1st rd of the playoffs? Keeping in mind, more than half the conference makes the playoffs.
     
  18. Cavan9

    Cavan9 Member

    Nov 16, 2011
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You have to start somewhere.
     
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  19. PSURoss

    PSURoss Member+

    Sep 30, 2002
    DC Burbs
    Agreed we do, but that implies that we're building and I don't think you build with a pair 32 yo DPs. I believe all three of our DPs are out of contract after next season.

    When it came to the core of this team, they constructed it like they were 1-2 players away from a Cup run, not a run at the bottom end of the playoffs. We're playing route one football because we can't play out of the back if our lives depended on it. While Benteke is the most dominant aerial ball winner I can recall in this league, he's on borrowed time. So we're not getting better building out of the back and there isn't much time left on route 1, so what's the philosophy next year or the year after? None of our DPs can be bought down and we're not likely to be buying out Benteke to add a piece who makes us more capable of playing out of the back. Outside of Najar, our wide players are not good or proven. Najar is also on borrowed time and perpetually one hangnail away from being done. Some young guys are getting minutes and starting to produce, but they're not all going to pan out. And a lot of the good pieces around them that are facilitating their development aren't going to be around in 2 ys. Kristian Fletcher is all but out the door to Dortmund when he turns 18.
     
  20. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Shuttleworth has a secret plan.
     
  21. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Was DeAndre Yedlin always such a punk ass bitch?
     
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  22. PSURoss

    PSURoss Member+

    Sep 30, 2002
    DC Burbs
    No. I was really kinda disappointed in how he wore the armband for them.
     
  23. usadcu

    usadcu Member

    Aug 25, 2005
    Alexandria, VA
    In the NewMLSPlayoffs the last two seeds, #8 and #9, have a play-in game at #8. So if we're #9 and lose that play-in then no home game.
    Otherwise the first round proper is the first-to-win-two thing, with the games at higher/lower/higher seed. So everyone gets at least one home game.
     
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  24. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pines made Team of the Matchday; Klich was on the bench.
     
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  25. Yowza

    Yowza Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Oct 23, 2019
    Arlington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fair. Klich has Hejduk lungs, for sure.
     
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