What has their bad management been? They don’t have the same streams of revenue as the bigger clubs. Money absolutely is an issue even if it’s complicated.
Weren't you saying "but Liga MX had Pro/Rel they just paused it"? When Liga MX had Pro/Rel no one in Mexico really paid attention to it. They wouldn't even televise the games there. Just the final was televised and was mentioned briefly in sports programs. Second division had an awful TV contract, if at all. And this is a country that is crazy about the sport. You always fall back on England because it is the most successful pyramid in the world and you think that can be replicated here. It can't. It can't even be replicated in countries where soccer is the #1 sport and it doesn't compete with other major sports like NFL, NBA, NHL all in the same city. It's like us saying that American football can become popular in Europe if they just followed the same blueprint as the NFL.
They have the 8th highest revenue in the league - the 17th biggest revenue of any clubs on the whole planet! They are the 15th richest club on the globe. https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/whi...tball-clubs-in-2021/psbb7gblbm6j1m5mc753tv1us Brighton & Hove Albion do NOT have revenue anything like Leicester City's.................not yet anyway! However Brighton & Hove Albion will be playing in Europe next season whereas Leicester City will be playing in the Championship........I expect the comparative revenues will be changing. Here is a list of Premier League clubs that did NOT have revenues as high as Leicester City this year:- Newcastle United (playing in the Champions League next year) Brighton (playing in Europe next year) Aston Villa (playing in Europe next year) Brentford Fulham Crystal Palace Wolves Bournemouth Nottingham Forest Everton Leeds United Southampton Leicester City also had the 7th highest payroll and the 9th highest squad value. All stats that show that its not the money that is to blame when it comes to Leicester City's failure but bad management has to be part of it, bad coaching perhaps, bad scouting, bad boardroom decisions, and above all else bad player performances. Bournemouth had the lowest squad value and the lowest revenue they had the lowest home attendances too, Bournemouth have (arguably) been well managed and will be playing Premier League football next season, which will boost their revenue.
No I have not mentioned pro/rel being suspended in Mexico. And the “weird” thing is almost every trip I took to Mexico prior to that suspension I’ve seen games there on tv.
Again, all those English stories are nice, but there is no country in the world that has similar lower-division support to England. Only Germany even comes close. The English pyramid is not even being replicated in Spain, Italy, and France, let alone the rest of the world.
That's why they can only bring up the English pyramid. England has everything working for them; travel distance, sponsorships, history, TV contracts, most popular sport, best overall salaries, support in all of their divisions etc. I would think just the German pyramid can compare to it but not as successful over all as the English pyramid. Gotta admit, it is something to admire and envy but something that isn't even replicated in more soccer crazed nations.
A handful of USL Championship and League One games are shown on ESPN2 every season, as well as ALL games being shown on ESPN+.......
They show Bundesliga, La Liga, Wrexham games, Euro games, and they're not American teams or leagues....
But they are all pro/rel leagues. As we’ve discussed at length if Wrexham’s prize for winning the National League had been playing in the National League next season, the story wouldn’t exactly have been so interesting.
They also have shown Korean Baseball, Aussie Rules Football, etc. Also, let's not act as if ESPN is placing matchups between teams fighting relegation on their flagship channels. They show Barca, Real madrid, Bayern, and Dortmund....
You’re cherry picking facts in service of an overly simplistic point. You didn’t answer the question on how they were mismanaged. Thankfully I have no dog in this hunt so don’t really care why you are making this point - but Leicester are an example of the danger of the system. Do a lot for the community - expand payrolls with success, spend 100M on one of the best training grounds in the world - get hit by a pandemic, some bad luck with injuries, aging stars and a not great goalie - and a solid club can lose buckets of money and have serious issues by dropping out of the PL gravy train. Is this a good thing? Hopefully they’ll be back up quickly.
You do know I was referring to the 2nd division, right? There is a reason the teams in the 2nd division didn't have good TV contracts because there wasn't any demand like there is for Liga MX? This just proves you have no idea how lower leagues operate or survive. No wonder you always bring up the English pyramid as an example of Pro/Rel being successful. If Mexico's 2nd division had great following and decent TV contracts they wouldn't have gotten rid of it in the first place nor would they be making it an U23 league now.
It was dramatic to watch and it will be interesting and dramatic to see if/when/how they go back up. And I’m more confident Leceister City will last another hundred years than the Colorado Rapids.
No really I'm not? Successful clubs are better managed, that's why they are successful, Leicester City had a better squad of players than Brighton or Fulham yet they finished way below them, that is mis-management. If you can explain why 'the system' caused Leicester City to fail and Brighton to succeed then I'd be interested to hear it? The system is a poor excuse when clubs with less resources and wealth finish way above you in the table. With reference to your comment about falling out of the Premier League let me ask you another question - what makes you think Leicester City have more 'right' to be in the Premier League than Bolton Wanderers or Sheffield Wednesday, or any of the clubs in the Championship, League 1, League 2 or below? What about what Bolton Wanderers do for their community? Do Bolton's fans and community not 'deserve' Premier League football every bit as much as Leicester fans and community? If Bolton Wanderers make it to the Premier League 'gravy train' is this a good thing?
Garber is right though. The MLS players are pro athletes. Each one of them represents an investment by their employer, MLS/their team. Their talents should only be showcased in a place that is suitable for a major league pro athlete, both from a facilities standpoint and from a presentation standpoint. No MLS player should play on a field that could inure them and no MLS player should be asked to play a competitive match in front of a few hundred people when their talents are in higher demand in a league match. MLS teams should always be presented as a big deal, not on a lousy single camera on a youtube feed on a busted turf field with gridiron lines in a minor league stadium at best. They are the best in our country and should only play in major league facilities.
Am I going to do real research? Hell, no, I'm relying on Wikipedia relying on Forbes. Forbes list of the most valuable football clubs - Wikipedia I'm not sure about this even playing field. Here is every team that has finished in the top six richest teams in England since 2007: Arsenal Chelsea Liverpool Manchester City Manchester United (always the richest) Newcastle United Tottenham Hotspur Of course, that list is a little misleading. Newcastle hasn't been in the top six since 2009. Manchester City took their spot, and has not relinquished it. And here is every English team that has finished in the world's top twenty richest teams list since 2007: Manchester United (16 times) (i.e., always) (always #1 in England) Arsenal (16 times) (have been sliding from consistent #2 to #6 the past couple of years) Chelsea (16 times) (always #3 or #4) (still no history) Liverpool (16 times) (#2 the past three years) Tottenham Hotspur (16 times) (always #5 or #6) Manchester City (15 times - did not make the world top 20 in 2008) (has settled in #2-#3, we'll see if any doubles or trebles gets them over the top) Newcastle (8 times, most recently in 2019) (was #5 in 2007 before an oil money team flew past them, a lesson which apparently was not lost) West Ham (made the world top 20 the last 7 years, good job) (never higher than #7 in England though) Leicester (made the world top 20 the last 5 years, good job, sort of) (always #8 or #9 in England) (I don't care for their chances going forward tbh) Everton (made the world top 20 the last 4 years, good job, kind of) (always as #7 in England) It's almost as if there are serious structural problems with the Premier League. So apart from the squeeze on the middle-class and lower teams thanks to the relegation butter churn, we have European competition lengthening the gap between the top six and everyone else. Some might not even see this as a problem. English football has historically had a Big Five or Big Six, and while some of the names of changed, by no means all of them have. And having a Big Five or Big Six is democracy itself compared to the oligarchy in Italy, the duopolies in Spain and Scotland, and the monarchy in Germany. But it's also a tribute to how solid the correlation between championships and money is. Except for Leicester, the only team to have won the Premiership before becoming one of the richest teams in the world. It says a lot that King Power's golden child qualifies as not only an underdog in this setting, but a monstrously unlikely one. And now the relegation goblin has claimed them, thanks to bad management and Bournemouth not scoring against Everton. Good, another real life test case. Before King Power, their peers were QPR and WBA. After untold millions of investment, they have the two most prestigious trophies in England for the first time in their history...and their peers are QPR and WBA. Let's do see if they bounce back, and what kind of ungodly money factories will greet them on their return.