We have options. I'm not overly impressed with that group in total, though. I would have liked to have split up Pepi and Balogun, but I know that was always unlikely given club situation.
Yeah. It's a melee. There's no one (save Balogun) who you absolutely NEEEEEDDDD to see, but all those guys have shown quality.
Precisely. My point -- which people clearly get overly worked up about when they disagree -- is that there are far too many players of the "he may be worthy of a look" type than can reasonably all be given a look. One of the things that I see, constantly, are posters advocating for this set of players who MUST be given a look now. Then, 7 out of the 10 players called for dont even make a difference at club. 2 may, but don't make a difference for the national team. The 10th might make some sort of good impression at the international level. Of the 10, who does the random poster talk about for the next decade to let you know that everyone that he is smarter than everyone in US Soccer? I, too, have looked at players and thought that it was a mistake not to bring this or that player in, or the inverse. But ability is not determined wholly on countable numbers (especially outside of goal scorers) and can not be left to the trivialities of popular internet opinion. And there are simply too few opportunities to satisfy the whims of all of us here. As such, I dont see the point in constantly arguing about guys that are not clear levels above the competition. It's why I can't get all up in arms about a guy like Sargent not getting more time (I know he is injured at the moment). Hell, there was a LONG period of time in which everyone in US Soccer was being blasted for not rolling out the red carpet for Hoppe. It has simply gotten ridiculous.
I don’t know how serious these provisional rosters are….. because if my recall is correct…. Josh Cohen was NOT on the provisional roster and now he’s on the actual roster.
It's a US National Team soccer discussion board. Getting 'worked up' over marginal selections and non-selections is what one should reasonably expect on such a forum.
Matt Besler, Geoff Cameron, Stuart Holden, Matt Turner, Miles Robinson, Walker Zimmerman, et al.; were all marginal selections, ignored by the fed...until they weren't. Apologists can conveniently hide behind the unknown. That's the fed head's (at the time) fault. The mistake's partially in the process.
Hey man Hoppe tries s**t. That‘s enough. Playing time, dozens of coach and scout evaluations in magic fairy dust Europe?! Does not matter. Meaningless. He tries s**t and scored a hat trick in the Bliga once! That is forever! Flaming out after any glimmer and not playing is the true way to champion someone here. I‘ll champion a hundred guys like that and one will come good one day and then there is proof of what I genius I am! Oh yeah. The best way to know than many in BS have gone overboard. The excuses.The hundreds of relentless excuses, conspiracy theories and attacks on people who don‘t agree, or present facts that show there are issues. Then you know what and who you are dealing with.
Truth here but we also were more immature and had less resources and experienced people. It‘s easy to complain about this, it‘s also easy to complain about how Russia didn‘t roll over Ukraine in a few days if you are Russian. You actually need a lot to back it up in reality, instead of just a paper/propaganda/digital world. Again, the USSF was a nickel and dime opp until the day Sunil left. Never was any structure. Wasn‘t really professional. Reality. Also, there are a lot of players everywhere who are missed or blossom later, are appreciated later, or fit into a different coaches plans later. Sorry, that is weak. Without MLS we wouldn‘t even have those players. That is the whole point of the league, right? Even with a fully functioning organization humans make mistakes or prefer others. Just the way it is. We are going from mom and pop, one guy running it all as a volunteer, with a huge ego, to just building a professional structure. Complain all you want but maybe it ain‘t easy. I have helped build/organize many organizations the world round and it‘s FN hard. Real hard. Want to know how far we have come? Go back every 5 years here and read the most over the top complaints. Funny and revealing stuff.
He's not on the roster. They need to submit a 23 man roster for nations league. BJ brought in 24 to camp, the extra was Cohen. Looks like they just brought him to train with the guys. Probably just wanted to take a look at him and get him integrated to the team to some degree.
If you’re not on the provisional roster you can’t play in the actual tournament. Cohen is there just to train.
Until we know for sure whether Hollingshead was called up and turned them down to concentrate on his church or was never called up this seems kind of a waste of time argument.
He won’t be on the gameday roster. He can’t be. BJ commented that we have 4 GK because they are starting camp early but only one keeper can come early and they need two. I read that as the MLS keepers will come once the window actually opens and Turner will be there first. I expect the Horvath injury is what triggered this. Cohen gets a look out of it.
If that is correct, then I wouldn't call Buck in for any camp that wouldn't cap tie him. Buck's a great prospect. But, there are other great prospects that want to rep the US. Don't deny those guys opportunities so that we can court Buck. JMO.
He's on the training roster, but there are 24 players on that roster and only 23 will be on the final roster. Given that Cohen is the only one who wasn't also on the provisional roster leads me to believe he's there as a guest player, of sorts.
There are a lot of rumors that Hollingshead has turned down callup's to be with his family and his brother's church (which he helped build). I've never heard of anyone actually asking him but he did take a year off before turning pro to help that church so it is certainly possible. Until that question is answered there's no reason to be upset he never got callus because he actually might have.
He was an MLS journeyman, who came in to everyone's surprise and was fine. I don't see any comparison to Hollingshead who is a high-priced, high-valued MLS player.
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We have the reason that there are camps not during the offseason where we play friendlies or minnows and he could have been given trials then. He'd have no cause to reject those call-ups, and the speculation he did could be applied to anyone, in which case you could never question roster selection, which is ultimately what some want (not implying you!).
I agree. Where's the quality? So many botched chances around the league it looks a little amateurish.
Yedlin tonight looked done, washed. He shouldn't be getting any more call ups, he never could pass and now he can't defend.