Ted Lasso

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  1. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    Wasn’t he in a Chelsea jersey?

    It’s like if Roy Keane had gone to Palace or Blackburn instead of Celtic.
     
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  2. TheJoeGreene

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    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yep. It's a Chelsea jersey with the Fly Emirates sponsorship on the front, which puts it in the 01-05 era.
     
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  3. NORML

    NORML Member+

    Aug 9, 2002
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    NSC Minnesota Stars
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    United States
    Just went backed and looked again and you and Dave are right, it is Chelsea. I've never been more happy to be wrong.
     
  4. Belgian guy

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    He was wearing an Umbro era Fly Emirates Chelsea kit in that poster. Which means it must have been from sometime in the 2003-2005 era.
     
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  5. Belgian guy

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    How old was Roy supposed to be when he retired anyway? We know he started out as a teenager at Sunderland and then was transferred to Chelsea. But that must mean his Sunderland period must have been twenty years prior to the present (based on the Chelsea kit in that poster)?
    So he is meant to be late thirties in his Richmond period?
     
  6. waitforit

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    Dec 3, 2010
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    FC Steaua Bucuresti
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    Romania
    The show will end with Ted coaching an NBA team

    Anyway my biggest pet peeve with this show is Richmond being in a title fight when we know they already have 7 losses

    I would have preferred the fairy tale ending winning the EFL cup or FA Cup of something. I know they are going for Leicester. Leicester had 3 loses all year. Yes lots of draws but still hard to beat
     
  7. superdave

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    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If he really wants to be a miracle worker, KU has one of the worst football histories in the P5.
     
  8. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If he was a big enough star in 2003-05 to get a Chelsea player's poster on the wall of a kid who was raised as a Man City fan, then he must have been pushing 40 at the end of his career in 2020. But it all kind of falls apart if you dig into it too much. Jamie's age of putting football stars on his wall would be more likely in the 2010s, and it's been established that Roy played in the 2014 World Cup--a poster of Roy in an England kit would have made more sense, but I think they really wanted the hairstyle gag. Were there any footballers in the Aughts with that kind of haircut?
     
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  9. Goodsport

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    May 18, 1999
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    So it turns out that Freddie Mercury briefly owned A.F.C. Richmond back in 1980 and tried unsuccessfully to get “Fat Bottomed Girls” to stick as the team’s anthem. :D


    -G
     
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  10. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
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    United States
    So incredibly disappointing for the series to end with this trash season.
     
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  11. TheJoeGreene

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    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    When Ted Lasso is at its best, it's like Rocky. The underdog always believes in his people no matter what, the presentation of the sport itself is ridiculous, and you're a damn fool if you're not laughing or crying half the time.

    Trenthouse Magazine caused a spit take for me. The meet cute callback at the end really got me as well. The closing montage was everything it needed to be. Laughed and cried all the way through the finale. Despite getting off course for most of the first half of the season, they landed the plane about as well as possible.
     
  12. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Cheers shoutout at the end was masterful, and meaningful.

    1. Note Mae adjusting the Geronimo picture on the wall of the bar. The same thing happened at the end of Cheers.
    2. The picture was something having to do with the actor who played Coach. I can't remember the specifics of the connection between the actor and the picture, but at the end of Cheers Sam Malone does the same thing with the same photo as a tribute to the (long by then deceased) actor.
    3. Jason Sudeikis is George Wendt's (Norm's) nephew.
    4. The advice Norm gives to Sam that is intended to be the final theme of Cheers was something like, you'll always return to your one true love. And at the end, Ted is coaching 11 year olds playing soccer. Coaching is his one true love.

    Go to youtube and watch the Cheers ending. You'll understand the Ted Lasso finale better.
    You hate everything.

    I'm sad for you.
     
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  13. superdave

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    Jul 14, 1999
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    DC United
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    United States
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  14. chad

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    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
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  15. superdave

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    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Rupert subplot was fan service, and IMO it was awful. The rest of the episode I liked.

    Are Ted and Michelle back together?
     
  16. Goodsport

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    May 18, 1999
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    Really good ending… and Ted even did his “Running Man” dance again, to boot. :thumbsup:

    I kinda called it earlier in this thread about Ted continuing to coach soccer once he returned to Kansas, albeit he ended up coaching his son’s school team rather than Sporting Kansas City. ;)

    Though speaking of MLS: one of the magazines Ted was looking at (but didn’t buy) in the airport revealed that Zava had just signed with Los Angeles FC, I suppose mimicking the character’s real-life inspiration Zlatan Ibrahimović playing two seasons with cross-town rival Los Angeles Galaxy a few years back. :D


    -G
     
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  17. malby

    malby Member+

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    May 11, 2004
    Rep of Ireland
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    Drogheda United
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    That was as good as it could be.

    The only thing that annoyed me was the psychiatrist wearing a Cowboys top.
     
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  18. Belgian guy

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    There is a theory that everything that happens after Ted gets on the plane is a dream sequence, thus you have to see Ted's return home to Michelle and his kid in that light.

    The thing that is weird about the Rupert thing is that they seemed to try and rehabilitate him a bit a few episodes ago (during the Super League negotiations with the team owners) only to go full villain with him for the finale?
     
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  19. superdave

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    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've read some of the thinkpieces about the ending, and it seems to me that most of them are reflections of "I liked that band when nobody else did, but now they're sellouts" mindset.

    Yes, the last season meandered. One of the thinkpieces was a list of 10 possible spinoffs, and that may account for some of the meandering, KBPR being at the top of the list IMO. Maybe they were testing out Season 4 plots without Ted being at the center. But for the most part, the negativity is reactionary, not genuine.

    I wonder if someone is going to write a thinkpiece comparing the show to the Wizard of Oz, and analogizing various characters in the show to characters in the book or movie. It might work...but not as well as this

    And because I love you all, here's a little essay on the Wizard of Oz as a parable for populism, written by a history prof I TA'd for back in 1989. There's another older essay out there written by Parker that's more on point but I couldn't find it right away, so this'll do.

    APUSH Unit 6 Wizard of Oz and Populism.doc (live.com)
    I advise everyone to pay very close attention to those tiny, hidden details at the end. For example, Ted is reading a book on the plane about how psychedelics can fix your brain. Zorro is going to star in an Escape to Victory remake. Some of them are just fun Easter eggs, but some seem purposeful.
     
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  20. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Weezer's first two records are brilliant. A lot of people like the turd one, though. Third. I meant third.

    But it was pretty crappy.
     
  21. Belgian guy

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    I actually think season two and three are roughly the same quality.

    It's season one that stands out as by far the best.

    Season three didn't have any single episode as bad as the Christmas episode in season two.
    A lot of the stuff that people are otherwise complaining about this season was already present in some form or another in its sophomore season.

    The failure of season three for me is the resolution of some of the things they built up in season two.
    They made Nate far too much of a villain over the course of season two to make the nature of his redemption in season three believable. They either should have toned that down in season two, or made the journey back to Richmond F.C. more difficult and impactful in season three.
     
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  22. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    I very much enjoyed the show, including this season. Minor nits, I thought Nate being able to quietly return to Richmond as "assistant to the kit man" was odd since he had been gaffer at another team. I think it would've made more sense to have him be an assistant at West Ham with Rupert promising him a head coaching position or something, then it not happening, leading to him returning.

    Oh, and it really bugged me that the three Richmond fans are in the pub for every match, those guys would probably have season tickets! Or at least, be at some in person.

    I did like the music choice over the credits, since The Flaming Lips had to credit Cat Stevens since they basically ripped off the melody of "Father & Son"
     
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  23. ThreeApples

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    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That sounds like people trying to create complicated subtext out of nothing--there's nothing presented to the viewer to indicate it's anything other than a typical "what happens next" montage. Nothing in that montage was fantastical or out of character based on everybody's situation at the point Ted leaves. The Michelle situation is left intentionally ambiguous, but I hope she kicked the highly unethical therapist to the curb after his "soccer is boring" schtick.

    Also I think that Ted wasn't coaching his kid's game, just attending as a parent.
     
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  24. superdave

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    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sudiekis has said that they changed the character because they wanted a contrast to, well, Trump. (Sorry to bring politics into it, but that’s what he said.). He wanted to put nice into the world.

    Brendan Hunt did a Reddit AMA and said the flash forwards were real, not dreams.

    My sense is that the creators are 100% honest that they haven’t decided what to do next. They planned from the beginning for this to be a 3 year project, and they’ve done that. The ending, IMO, deliberately set up many, many new 3 year arcs, but to me, I don’t see how Ted gets back to England. Now, there’s precedence for a follow up show to betray the old show. Cheers’ Frasier was an orphan from an upper class family, but on his own show, his dad is a former policeman and alive. But for Ted to go back to England, that would take some shenanigans and contortions. The change of the book title to me is a big clue that while we may get to live in that world again, it’ll be without Ted if we do.
     
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  25. superdave

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    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Keep Hash Pipe, burn the rest
    I always assumed they couldn’t afford it. Remember, it took the three of them together to buy one share of the club.
     
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