England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Dec 12, 2022.

  1. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
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  2. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    BBC sport readers Players of the season.

    Stones was third at Man City.
    Saka was second and White was fourth at Arsenal.
    Rashford was second and Shaw was fourth at Man United
    Trippier was voted Player of the Season and Wilson was third at Newcastle.
    Alexander - Arnold was third at Liverpool.
    Steele was fourth at Brighton.
    Watkins was voted Player of the Season with Mings third and Young fourth at Villa.
    Kane was voted Player of the Season with Forster second at Spurs.
    Toney was voted Player of the Season with Mee third at Brentford.
    Olise was voted Player of the Season with Guehi second at Palace.
    Chilwell was fourth at Chelsea.
    Dawson was second at Wolves.
    Rice was voted Player of the Season with Bowen third at West Ham.
    Tavernier was fourth at Bournemouth.
    Gibbs - White was voted Player of the Season at Forest.
    Pickford was voted Player of the Season at Everton with Tarkowski second and McNeil third.
    Maddison was voted Player of the Season at Leicester with Barnes second.
    Harrison was Second at Leeds.
    Ward - Prowse was voted Player of the Season at Southampton.

    No English eligible players in the top four at Fulham.
     
  3. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Coady is far too good for Everton .. he only there as it’s birthplace

    He’d be better at a decent footballing team
     
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  4. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    It looks like Sheffield United are interested in him.
     
  5. ht_hu96

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    Middlesbrough
    England
    May 23, 2019
    Each to their own, but personally think it’ll be disappointing if both Rice and Kane snub interest from Bayern and Madrid in favour of staying in London. They’ll both win far more at those clubs than they will at Arsenal and Spurs.

    I feel having a core of players who are serial winners is the next step for us to go to the next level and joining those clubs would provide that for those two.
     
  6. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
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  7. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Kane will probably never leave spurs if doesn’t leave this summer. Their season next year probably won’t be as bad as this so if he stays he will probably end up renewing his contract by next summer.

    Rice is just someone who I think likes his comfort zone. Arsenal’s rise this season compared to last season as meant he can justify himself joining them when his first choice Chelsea became maybe too messy for a couple of reasons.
     
  8. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021
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  9. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
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  10. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
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  11. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Disappointing if true. Turning down Bayern for Arsenal!
     
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  12. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Suppose they play better football than Everton

    :)
     
  13. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Can’t see Kane staying if Real Madrid come calling ..
     
  14. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    He shouldn’t turn them down but I honestly would be be shocked if he did.
     
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  15. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Sounds like he just doesn’t want to leave London let alone England. He still lives in West London near where he grew up.
     
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  16. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    I prefer this take.

     
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  17. ht_hu96

    ht_hu96 Member+

    Middlesbrough
    England
    May 23, 2019
    Yeah disappointing but I think more so is that I believe many other English players in his position would do the same. I think we’re the only nation whose players seem to prioritise home comforts over picking the best career option. The reason it irks me is that I genuinely believe it is a factor in why the big nations tend to have an edge over us in the latter stages of tournaments. They have players who play for clubs that win things regularly and are used to the intense pressure of a Madrid, Bayern, Barca where managers get sacked for not winning the league or performing poorly in the CL.

    Whereas too often our key players are more happy staying in England even if it means compromising their chance to win things and play at the highest level.
     
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  18. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I agree but to be fair the PL is the highest level of league football now a days.
     
  19. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Kane has to take the real Madrid opportunity if it arrises. He's England captain. We need winners in that position. Part of me thinks why bottles the big moments is because spurs are never in any big game scenarios. If he takes the easy way out and stays at spurs strip him of the England captaincy. As for rice, bayern should be his priority over arsenal. I thought English players were finally opening up to the idea of playing abroad. Staying in England is the easy way out. As ht said other nations Learn from playing abroad in different styles. France have players all over Europe at the highest level
     
  20. ht_hu96

    ht_hu96 Member+

    Middlesbrough
    England
    May 23, 2019
    Yeah that’s fair enough and I can understand why players feel winning one PL is more valuable than winning multiple Bundesliga’s. I just feel though that Arsenal for all their progress this season are a big risk for someone who “wants to win the lot” to quote his own words on the Overlap a year ago. They’ve not won a league in twenty years and have never been able to get over the line in Europe. I guess we just have to hope for the best now.
     
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  21. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    They do but I guess the lure of not uprooting him and his partner and son to a different country or even a different city is too not something he wants to do.
     
  22. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Paul ince our last World class holding player took the chance on inter Milan and he was a hero there. If rice wants to trundle along and win nothing whilst scrapping for a top 4 finish. Good luck to him. Can't understand why players turn down opportunities to broaden their horizon in a short career whilst winning shed loads of trophies
     
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  23. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Through he did leave them for Liverpool for family reasons despite them wanting him to stay.
     
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  24. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Yes but he was there two years and was a cult hero
     
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  25. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    A bit rich coming from a failed football club owner.
     
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