News: October 2023 - Matches against Germany and Ghana

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by schrutebuck, May 30, 2023.

  1. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    US Soccer has scheduled two international friendlies for October 2023 in the United States.

    The US will play Germany on October 14 in Hartford, CT (Pratt & Whitney Stadium)
    The US will play Ghana on October 17 in Nashville, TN (Geodis Park, the Nashville SC stadium).

    https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/20...rld-cup-champion-germany-and-ghana-in-october

    Germany is the rare UEFA national team that has an open schedule, since it has automatically qualified for Euro 2024. Ghana is available as it looks like African Cup of Nations qualification will only occupy one international break in the fall.

    It looks like November 2023 will have CONCACAF Nations League matches, but September 2023 will be open for the US to schedule more international friendlies.
     
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  2. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    good comp that (timing-wise) should allow at least mid-full teams, while conversely most mls players will likely be out due to playoffs barring a manager who refuses to play without.

    and obviously the big question is do we hire a manager by then.
     
  3. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Germany could have gotten a huge gate in a big stadium near an airport with lots of nonstops from throughout the country. Hartford is an odd choice. And why make these guys travel so much for a short window?
     
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  4. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Apparently South American qualifying starts in September so none of those teams will be available.
     
  5. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Given all the continental tournaments anymore this is pretty outstanding and as good as its likely to get in the future too. Well done USSF!
     
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  6. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    UEFA should have some teams available on September matchdays due to 5 team groups, so perhaps a trip to Europe that month? It doesn't even need to be two UEFA opponents, but I would aim for 1 away match at least, and either another away match or a neutral site match.

    For example, Group B has France available on one matchday, and Gibraltar on the other. Group D has Wales and Turkey on one matchday each. Group F has Austria and Azerbaijan available. Etc.

    The US should move fast though if that is the plan, as some of these national teams like France have already started scheduling matches for their one open September date
     
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  7. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I don't think it is a bad plan but people should also be prepared for an uninterested, rotated French squad in that situation.

    I'm no sure the alternatives but I wonder if Asia or Africa provides better options?
     
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  8. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    France has already scheduled against Germany for their open date, as has Wales with South Korea.
     
  9. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I was speaking in a general sense -- if you are the friendly in a window where the other match is competitive, I wouldn't expect a lot of intensity or an A team.
     
  10. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This. Friendlies, by and large are just not going to give any team a real top notch competitive match that some fans think they are. Ah, they are called friendlies for a reason....lol
     
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  11. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m not sure who hasn’t already scheduled friendlies but UEFA teams with open dates in addition to France includes Norway, Scotland, Gibraltar, England, Malta, Turkey, Wales, Czech Republic, Moldova, Azerbaijan, Austria, Montenegro, and Hungary.

    I feel like I prefer doing away matches verses neutral site games that have no atmosphere, but we’ll see what happens.

    I believe once we schedule September we are all booked up through the September 2024 window.
     
  12. Yowza

    Yowza Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Oct 23, 2019
    Arlington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think we should schedule more against Japan, South Korea, and Australia. Teams at our level (maybe Japan a little better, maybe Australia a little worse) that we know will play hard and give as good as they get. That kind of competition should be achievable and will be at least as helpful as playing Germany in the US, I think moreso. You know Germany are just getting it in, not really invested.
     
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  13. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe South Korea with Klinsmann there.
     
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  14. OlympiquedeMarseille

    Apr 18, 2012
    Ottawa
    Club:
    Ottawa Fury
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
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  15. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think with Germany it depends on how set the starters are. If they are secure they don't go full bore but if they are trying to win spots it would be different. Since they haven't impressed that much recently there may be chances for new up and comers.
     
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  16. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    #16 Clint Eastwood, Jun 1, 2023
    Last edited: Jun 1, 2023
    France also refuses to play a game on US soil.
    That dates back to a beef with the USSF from the 70s.
    They've held that grudge for a long time.

    We've played them twice since 1979.

    In fact, the USMNT has only played France 4 times in history. And the USMNT has never beaten France. We've only ever scored one goal in history against France. That was who? Survey says? :)

    You nailed it: Julian Green

    I imagine that France is the power that we've played the least.
    I think we've played Spain 5 times. Famously beat them once in a competition that mattered, when they were the #1 team in the FIFA rankings.
     
  17. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I do agree with the sentiment that its getting harder and harder to schedule top international opponents. However, I do think the USMNT is a team that these top international opponents like Germany increasingly WANT to play. So we'll be able to fill windows. Our friendly opponents since the start of 2022 have been pretty good. Morocco, Uruguay, Japan, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, Colombia, Mexico. And now we have Germany and Ghana scheduled. So..................that's good.
     
  18. MayaDempsey

    MayaDempsey Member+

    Jul 29, 2014
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    I really like the opponents…but mostly just happy they’re coming to Nashville.
     
  19. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What did USSF do to France to cause that kind of a grudge? It must be something truly bizarre.
     
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  20. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    @Clint Eastwood yeah, what? I've not heard this one.
     
  21. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    *gets out the popcorn.*
     
  22. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Freedom fries.
     
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  23. dna77054

    dna77054 Member+

    Jun 28, 2003
    houston
    Fine by me, they can boycott WC 2026. WC 1994 was fine without them, the next one will be also.
     
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  24. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    I didn’t know that about France. Maybe that explains their otherwise inexplicable failure to qualify for USA 1994, when they only needed a total of 1 point from their last 2 qualifiers, both at home (against Israel and Bulgaria).
     
  25. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First team Roster
    GK Matt Turner

    GK [open]
    GK [open]

    FB Sergino Dest
    FB Joe Scally
    FB Jedi Robinson

    FB [open]
    CB Walker Zimmerman
    CB Miles Robinson

    CB [open]
    CB [open]

    MF Weston McKennie
    MF Tyler Adams’ spot >>> [open due to injury]
    MF Yunus Musah
    MF Luca de la Torre
    AT Christian Pulisic
    AT Gio Reyna
    AT Tim Weah
    AT Brenden Aaronson

    AT [open]
    AT [open]

    FW Folarin Balogun
    FW Ricardo Pepi


    ….Maybe, you can call in 26, which would maybe add another fullback spot, another forward, and either another center back, midfielder, or winger.

    Fighting for a spot (note: not everyone has as realistic of a shot but listed everyone on the u20 roster, the GC & NL provisional rosters, and a few extras)….
    • Gabriel Slonina, GK
    • Roman Celentano, GK
    • Drake Callender, GK
    • Antonio Carrera, GK
    • Alex Borto, GK
    • Bryan Reynolds, RB
    • Marlon Fossey, RB
    • Brooks Lennon, RB
    • Reggie Cannon, RB
    • Shaq Moore, RB
    • DeAndre Yedlin, RB
    • Julian Gressel, RB
    • Justin Che, RB
    • Michael Halliday, RB
    • Auston Trusty, CB
    • Chris Richards, CB
    • Mark McKenzie, CB
    • John Brooks, CB
    • Brandon Craig, CB
    • Josh Wynder, CB
    • Matt Miazga, CB
    • Erik Palmer-Brown, CB
    • Sam Rogers, CB (not on any summer roster)
    • Aaron Long, CB
    • Jalen Neal, CB
    • Marcus Ferkranus, CB
    • John Tolkin, LB
    • DeJuan Jones, LB
    • Caleb Wiley, LB
    • Jonathan Gomez, LB
    • Mauricio Isaias, LB (dual national)
    • Sam Vines, LB (what’s his story?)
    • George Bello, LB (needs a resurrection)
    • James Sands, MF
    • Noel Buck, MF (did not make any summer roster)
    • Jack McGlynn, MF
    • Rokas Puktsas, MF
    • Jackson Yuiell, MF
    • Keaton Parks, MF
    • Cristian Roldan, MF
    • Kelyn Acosta, MF
    • Lennard Maloney, MF (under the radar?)
    • Amir Richardson, MF (dual national)
    • Alex Mendez, MF (don’t forget about just yet)
    • Aidan Morris, MF
    • Tanner Tessman, MF
    • Gianluca Busio, MF
    • Owen Wolff, MF
    • Daniel Edelman, MF
    • Obed Vargas, MF
    • Johnny Cardoso, MF
    • Tim Tillman, MF
    • Paxton Pomykal, MF
    • Paxten Aaronson, AT (not on any summer roster)
    • Richie Ledezma, AT
    • Djordje Mihailovic, AT
    • Taylor Booth, AT
    • Brian Gutierrez, AT (did not play in any summer tournament)
    • Benjamin Cremaschi, AT (did not play in any summer tournament)
    • Niko Tsakiris, AT
    • Diego Luna, AT
    • Alan Sonora, AT
    • Quinn Sullivan, AT
    • Cade Cowell, AT
    • Kevin Paredes, AT
    • Tyler Boyd, AT
    • Alejandro Zendejas, AT
    • Jordan Pefok, FW
    • Haji Wright, FW
    • Brandon Vazquez, FW
    • Jesus Ferreira, FW
    • Jeremey Ebobisse, FW
    • Matthew Hoppe, FW
    • Darren Yapi, FW
    • Keyrol Figueroa, FW (not on any summer roster)
    Oh, and we’ll have to see where they’re at, health wise….
    • Tyler Adams, MF
    • Tim Ream, CB
    • Cameron Carter-Vickers, CB
    • Daryl Dike, FW
    • Zack Steffen, GK
    • Ethan Horvath, GK
    • Malik Tillman, AT
    • Jordan Morris, AT
    • Paul Arriola, AT
    • Josh Sargent, FW
     
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