News: 2023 FIFA U20 World Cup (May 20-June 11 : Argentina)

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by TheFalseNine, Jun 29, 2022.

  1. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams
    United States
    May 26, 2001
    Westminster, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nigeria 2-0 wow
     
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  2. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams
    United States
    May 26, 2001
    Westminster, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    England still 1-2
     
  3. Ray Shoesmith

    Ray Shoesmith Member+

    Valencia
    United States
    Nov 14, 2021
    Italy is good.

    Hey, our schedule was soft, and so was Argentinas. I know we are pretty good and I love the way we play, but as a few have mentioned, we might have had to easy of a schedule and it might screw us by not being tested. Still can‘t wait to see.
     
  4. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams
    United States
    May 26, 2001
    Westminster, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Argentina’s free participation is over
     
  5. Boysinblue

    Boysinblue Member

    Jul 31, 2011
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  6. Ray Shoesmith

    Ray Shoesmith Member+

    Valencia
    United States
    Nov 14, 2021
    Very unimpressed with England. They beat Uruguay! Hmm.:p

    Damn youth soccer.
     
  7. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The second Italy goal was a gift from the Ref. Can't believe that he came to the conclusion that his no call on the field was an egregious error. I was thinking there isn't any place on earth where that's a hand ball. But apparently it is in Argentina.
     
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  8. Ray Shoesmith

    Ray Shoesmith Member+

    Valencia
    United States
    Nov 14, 2021
    His arm was out. He made the mistake of fully turning his body and not keeping them tight. I‘m not saying I would have called it, but I am not shocked it was.
     
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  9. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bye Felicias. Bye bid stealers. Phony faves.

    Good thing we didn't get anyone from group D right off the bat, huh.
     
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  10. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's still 1 measuring stick left, and the more important one. The 2nd place finisher in our group is yet to play his round. We'll find out tomorrow how legit they were.
     
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  11. Ray Shoesmith

    Ray Shoesmith Member+

    Valencia
    United States
    Nov 14, 2021
    Yeah. I watched 30 minutes of the Slovak match before a call and it was clear only poor finishing or stellar keeping would keep that close. I knew they weren‘t good. It‘s the Ecuador match will tell me how to feel. Still love our team either way, but we needed to be tested more.
    Oh well. Go play!
     
  12. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    #862 grandinquisitor28, May 31, 2023
    Last edited: May 31, 2023
    No tournament ever does, but this one hasn't even been that surprising.

    The late games today weren't even that weird.

    Italy lost to England 2-1 on an 80something minute goal in the semifinals of the U19 Championships. This time they win 2-1 on an 80something minute goal. I'm more curious about what happened to Italy in the second game against Nigeria. What was up there?

    As for Nigeria, as I mentioned pre-game, I don't know what they are. All their losses are to really good teams: Senegal, Gambia, and Brazil. But what the hell happened in that 2-1 win against Domin'can Republic? They dominated the stats, but they never put them away. Weird. They were also just not as good, period, as Senegal and Gambia. On the other hand, they played Brazil and Italy even, and those two sides look like title contenders except for one Italy slip up, so maybe Nigeria's really good? I'm just not sure.

    But all in all, not much is surprising, dig under the hood and all the results are largely reasonable. No monster upsets yet. Even Argentina falling is in keeping w/the fact that they didn't do well in Qualifying and beat nobody of consequence in the group stage. This entire cycle they basically did nothing of note.

    So, so far? It's pretty in keeping w/the relative quality of the teams.
     
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  13. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    My fingers are crossed that France and England's A sides beating the piss out of us by a combined 8-2 score line in March (I keep forgetting we scored 2, not 1, against England) insured that nobody would get big heads just two months later beating a bunch of patsies. One can only hope, but yeah, the road forward is probably Vs Uruguay and then probably vs Brazil, so YIKES. But at least they have the unfair rest advantage against Uruguay.
     
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  14. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    1.91-1.72 for England in xG
    42-40 for England in dangerous attacks.

    Kinda like their Euro 19 championship match last June where England won 2-1 on a late goal. They seem very close. For some reason I kept thinking England also played them in the group stage, but they didn't, I was mixing up Italy with Israel.
     
  15. Dr. Gamera

    Dr. Gamera Member+

    Oct 13, 2005
    Wheaton, Maryland
    Group D put three in the quarterfinals. Not implausible that all three will even advance to the semifinals.
     
  16. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    If memory serves (but probably doesn’t) that’s not uncommon in South American broadcasts.
     
  17. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member+

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    I don't know what he's talking about, they do show the replays while the ref is checking. I recall that being the case during the Brazil v Tunisia game.
     
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  18. Boysinblue

    Boysinblue Member

    Jul 31, 2011
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know of Paredes and Pukstas from us and Carney Chukwuemeka from England, are there any other players who joined after the group stage?
     
  19. Ball Chucking Hack

    Jan 21, 2005
    Raleigh, NC
    I don't think they ever showed the replay of what they were checking in the first half of the US/NZ game, did they? It felt like they took a long time to get to a replay of the handball in the Italy/England game. There has been lots of strange footage of players just standing around, while we wait on the VAR decisions, even if they've usually gotten to replays eventually.
     
  20. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How does the USA match up against either Uruguay or The Gambia?
     
  21. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [QUOTE="Boysinblue, post: 41431954, member: 192334" Carney Chukwuemeka from England, [/QUOTE]

    Is he who sang Tubthumper?
     
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  22. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fox Sports' production is terrible, and this was another case. But they did EVENTUALLY show it. They were also looking at a handball in that case. It was by Gomez. The ball ran up his foot or body after he blocked it, and eventually made way to his hand. But it was adjudged to be accidental/incidental, which was the right call.

    They took an incredibly long time to make the decision too. I guess that's what you get when you don't invest much $ in a tourney.
     
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  23. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    For us weirdos this is the second most important tournament in the world. For the real world it's very, very niche and there's not much money in this.
     
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  24. Ball Chucking Hack

    Jan 21, 2005
    Raleigh, NC
    I'm guessing that there is also a common feed everyone has to use? I agree you can tell there isn't a lot of production value going into the broadcast, but these problems are usually made more clear b/c Fifa is showing one thing and the commentators/networks have to react to it w/out knowing what is coming up.
     
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  25. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was surprised to hear attendance was 8k.
     

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