England Under 21 Discussions Thread (2002+ born) #8

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  1. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
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  2. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    I'll start with the caveat stats don't tell the whole story, but his stats are unbelievably impressive for his age and given the majority of the teams he's played have been top of the table teams:

    https://fbref.com/en/players/da011f18/Lewis-Hall

    Ordinarily i'm not a huge fan of our converting players to full backs and wide players given the scarcity it leaves elsewhere but in Hall's case it'd actually be useful if he became a top left back given our scarcity of options in that area. Even in the age groups teams the under 21's have Thomas who's never going to be the level we want, 20's have no one, 19's have Chambers who has some potential though I wouldn't especially expect to make it, and 18's have Sousa who won't even choose England if he's good enough.
     
  3. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Unfortunately I think he will probably end up back in the midfield at some point. He has said he prefers the midfield. But for England as you say it will be much more Beneficial if he doesn’t.
    Why are we so weak at producing them when right backs are plentiful.
     
  4. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    We don't see to produce much in the way of left footed defenders in general really, obviously they are more scarce in the first place but I can't even remember the last regular starting centre back we had who was left footed. Even in squad players Mings is the only left footed regular squad member we've had going back years.
     
  5. PoliteSquats

    PoliteSquats Member

    Apr 13, 2015
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    In fairness we don't produce a lot of midfielders either.
     
  6. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
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    He was at fault for the Martial goal though to be fair. Just let Sancho run off him.
     
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  7. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Angel Gomes is absent for Lille so I suspect he is injured.
     
  8. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Ramsey, Colwill, Hall, Madueke, Garner, Thomas, Jones, Gordon, Gibbs - White, Skipp all starting.

    Smith Rowe, Elliott on the benches.

    Palmer and Lewis also starting for Man City but Johnson is absent from West Ham’s squad.
     
  9. BarryfromEastenders

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    Jul 6, 2008
  10. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Just filling a homegrown quota.
     
  11. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    He can have an impact on their squad. They would pick someone else if it was just about home grown quota surely? He could be sold for the highest amount compared to the other squad peripheral HG options.
     
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  12. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    True. Let’s hope he can actually stand out at the under 21’s as he has the talent but has had a weaker season than quite a few others in the squad.
     
  13. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    While there has been talk of him going on loan elsewhere in the PL Cucurella and Maatsen are said to be leaving Chelsea so if they do actually both go Hall will likely stay as the back up to Chilwell.
     
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  14. ESBFC123

    ESBFC123 Member

    Barnsley FC
    England
    Jan 19, 2019
    In a Scottish Context , Mattie Pollock (on loan at Aberdeen from Watford) and Alex Cochrane (Hearts) have also had good seasons. It's nice to see.
     
  15. ESBFC123

    ESBFC123 Member

    Barnsley FC
    England
    Jan 19, 2019
    Might be an unpopular opinion, but I'd rather have seen Giles in the squad than Luke Thomas.
    This situation reminds of me of when we didn't even call-up Omari Richards , after he'd had a really great season , in a very good Reading side which just missed the play-offs.
    At least give the lad a call-up surely.
     
  16. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    I'm not sure its that unpopular, I've never been convinced by Thomas when I've seen him for Leicester or the U21s.
     
  17. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    I think you'll find no one here who would oppose Giles replacing Thomas. Sadly he will not though.
     
  18. BarryfromEastenders

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    Jul 6, 2008
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  20. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Jockies have their Eyes on livramento. They can eff off. He's a future England player.
     
  21. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Branthwaite has apparently asked to leave Everton with interest from several clubs - West Ham have been named as one. He is reportedly seen as too expensive by PSV Eindhoven who would ideally habe liked him to stay there.
     
  22. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Apparently Colwill wants to leave Chelsea for Brighton but that is not likely to happen.
     
  23. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    He is pretty important as the senior starting right back position will be up for grabs post Euros. James is so injury prone he is not reliable enough.
     
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  24. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
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