Anthony Hudson

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  1. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "I don't even know if he wears shoes" :laugh:

    someone will take this seriously in 3...2...
     
  2. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Found it interesting that the release from the fed relating to Balogun did not refer to Hudson as interim or caretaker manager. Just called him the manager. I think he has a chance to win his way into a longer contract this summer.
     
  3. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Deserves credit.
     
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  4. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don’t think he has any chance in terms of being the long term manager and I bet we have someone picked in June.

    I do think he might get a chance to coach the Olympic team and that the next coach may keep him on staff for continuity purposes.
     
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  5. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is like the opposite of Office Space where instead of firing the guy, they just stop paying him hoping it will resolve itself. Hudson may become the guy they keep paying for so long that people forget he's interim and he just assumes the role.
     
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  7. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well the no bounce passes clearly rules him out.
     
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  8. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    Yeah, I think maybe, maybe he would have had a slight chance of getting the job if he had absolutely knocked it out of the park in his interim stint, like 9.5/10 or 10/10. However, if 5/10 is truly average, I'd probably give him a 6/10. He did well securing some dual nat commitments, and I do like that he's looking at using a 4-2-3-1, especially when Adams is out, but really the results and the level of play haven't changed much from last cycle.
     
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  9. Papin

    Papin BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 19, 1998
    le côté obscur
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm going to wait and see how things look with the upcoming NL and Gold Cup matches before I judge AH. The handful of matches in the 4 months following the world cup haven't told me much.
     
  10. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The biggest thing to me is he's below the Cherundolo line.

    Cherundolo seems like pretty clearly the better coach so why would we take Hudson over him.
     
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  11. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  12. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did not say I learned it. Did not say it is a fact. It is my opinion based on what I have noticed so far.

    So far, I am satisfied with Hudson's organization and control of the team, and the way the team plays with the players available.
     
  13. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    can't believe some simp actually made a thread for one of the worst coaches in MLS over the last decade...

    "The Anthony Hudson Era"
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    "liked by Geoff Qanon Cameron"

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  14. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Comparing apples to oranges.
     
  15. Mahtzo1

    Mahtzo1 Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    So Cal
    Sometimes you just have to admit that it is impossible to determine cause and effect without more real evidence.

    Do people believe that any dual nat would make a life decision based upon actions or words of a caretaker manager...let alone two? Who do we actually have any evidence that Reyna's situation has been "solved" by Hudson? Perhaps he is responsibe, maybe McKennie, Ream, Pulisic or some other team leaders intervened and played a role, perhaps it was just Reyna being mature and working through it.

    This is not a criticism of Hudson's short tenure with the team but simply a comment that some people are pretty quick to give him credit for things that he likely had little influence over. I also wonder how Berhalter would have been rated for the same results that Hudson had?

    please don't take this as a pro Berhalter post....it is not, but I think it is important to note that Hudson is getting credit largely due to the spelling of his last name not beginning with B.
     
  16. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Hudson did a good job because he didn't screw anything up. I don't mean that as flippantly as it sounds. I do think this time period in the window really wasn't about anything so much as the guys getting back together and playing a little bit.

    I suspect the Reyna stuff isn't fully normal, but it may never be, and all that can really fix that is time without drama. Balogun certainly wasn't committing because of Hudson, but he kept it moving and obviously did his part.

    I think the general loosening of play three years out was also a pretty good move, especially for an interim manager. I wouldn't want to see our defense look like it has in 2026 (or even Copa America) but for now, it's fine and there's no point in hammering intense discipline for three years straight. Let 'em have some fun and then tighten up when it really starts to matter.

    He didn't try to make the team his own. He didn't try any big tactical changes. He didn't try to make big personnel changes. He took the interim tag as he should and did basically what he should.

    I don't think anything he did here is particularly representative of how good he'd be as a permanent coach, because I don't think he necessarily approached it the same way.
     
  17. Mahtzo1

    Mahtzo1 Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    So Cal
    And of course, I wasn't trying to be negative toward Hudson....he did what he could in the time that he had under the constraints that his role of interim manager implies. It's just that I think some (probably not the majority) are over reacting....as fans tend to do I suppose.
     
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  18. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Don't worry, we won't.
     
  19. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    My Hudson review is pretty simple. Dull witted Jan camp, comfortable March window, and big leap forward in El Grabico (over MLS Jan camp) left me wondering how Hudson would write the next chapter of his career with summer tournaments, i.e., NL and Gold Cup.

    That's it. I'm sorry we won't see his work this summer. The attitude of the players was much improved over the Berhalter days.
     
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  20. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
     
  21. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Agree 100%.

    I think we over-attribute to every coach, of course. Berhalter got too much of the good and the bad. He's not responsible for every player decision or miscue, and he's also not actually Greg Saban, pulling in guys with sweet talk. He played his part in both sides of the coin, of course, and undoubtedly was a key part in creating the culture. But so was Weston and Tim and Tyler and yes, even the older MLS guys. We don't seem to have nearly the clubhouse divide we had and it takes everyone.

    Hudson did well in not trying to do much more than keep the team moving in the same general direction, and not be very demanding. I think that latter point was a good move after a very stressful World Cup.

    But it would be kind of crazy to think he was a deciding factor for Balogun or Zendejas or Tim Tillman. I expect he simply represented the culture that Berhalter, him and the rest of the staff, and the players built over the last three years.

    And his tactical changes have been pretty damn small and haven't really seen any difference in results. Which also is a smart move! He's not supposed to change things significantly.

    That's for the permanent coach.

    I think he's been an excellent interim coach, and I don't think that particularly tells us anything about how good a permanent coach he'd be.
     
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  22. MayaDempsey

    MayaDempsey Member+

    Jul 29, 2014
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    If it doesn’t tell us anything it doesn’t tell anyone anything. There just isn’t a good reason (other than money) for being an interim that doesn’t have some potential to be made permanent.
     
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  23. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

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    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Of course there is. You need a coach to placehold while you interview and hire your permanent coach.

    I don't know why people think this is a short process that gets done in a week. FFS, my company can't hire a junior analyst in less than 2 months; this is someone making millions.
     
  24. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    The "search" has not been active for less than two months. It has been active, or should have been, for at least six months. In fact, unless the top of the USSF are udder morons it has been an ongoing process for at least a year and maybe even two.
    It is not a short process but it is actually a never ending process and if it is a process that starts and stops then the organization itself is insane. Which is not impossible for the USSF. Remember that doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is one definition of insanity.
     
  25. MayaDempsey

    MayaDempsey Member+

    Jul 29, 2014
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    I couldn’t care less how long it takes. I don’t think coaches make much difference. They make even less difference if they don’t hire their own people and run their own program. My point is that there’s very little in it for an interim coach with no chance that it goes permanent. Like you rightly said, the people with by far the most insight into his performance learned very little about his coaching ability.

    It should surprise no one that people move on from an arrangement like that.
     
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