The Official John J. Fisher ownership thread

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by xbhaskarx, Mar 30, 2019.

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John Fisher

Poll closed Oct 30, 2019.
  1. should spend more money

    20 vote(s)
    62.5%
  2. should fire Fox and/or Fioranelli

    10 vote(s)
    31.3%
  3. should bring in additional owners

    10 vote(s)
    31.3%
  4. should sell the team

    11 vote(s)
    34.4%
  5. is not the problem

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. is doing a great job!

    1 vote(s)
    3.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
  2. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #2602 falvo, May 22, 2023
    Last edited: May 22, 2023
    Yeah that 2001 franchise was a great team.


    Too bad that couldn't happen with Fisher in charge.
     
  3. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, you don't need celebrity owners, you just need good owners?
     
  4. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    I'd say both can be good. We surely don't need a desperately poor owner, which is what we've been saddled with for the past 15 years.

    I get that if I was still ponying up a bunch of money for Quakes season tickets every year, and/or I was super cozy with the Quakes FO, I'd probably have a different take on John Fisher's past, present and future impact on our team.

    But it does seem like a daily back and forth (in here) between the last remaining handful of STH's and those who are sick and tired of the man and how he runs our team and fear we may be going the way of the A's...maybe not immediately, but that's kind of the trajectory we're on and potentially the inevitable, sad conclusion of so little ambition coming from the top of this organization, year after year.

    Fisher has been terrible for the Quakes as he has been for the A's. I just don't think there's any defending the man or his track record in the Bay Area.
     
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  5. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Offhand I’d say there were some limits to Russell’s performance last year as Denver QB.
     
  6. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #2606 falvo, May 22, 2023
    Last edited: May 22, 2023

    You need an owner who is passionate, has a voice and at least shows that he cares about his team.

    I don’t know if he does or not but Fisher in 15 years , (other than building the stadium) hasn’t showed any of us fans that he cares about this team.

    He most certainly doesn’t care much about the Oakland A’s fans and the same can probably be said on his feelings towards the Quakes followers.
     
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  7. SalinasQuakesFan

    Mar 27, 2010
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    150 YARDS? That would be a 450 feet down the line, and 600 feet to dead deeper than any baseball park has ever been. Even the old Polo grounds home to May's famous catch would only be about 30 feet deeper than your 150 yard foul line..
     
  8. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Oops. :)
     
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  9. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don is a fan of "inside the park homeruns".:)
     
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  10. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    There are practical reasons to have a fence but I think the game would be more fun if there wasn’t a (practical) fence and you had to run out each home run. I remember in little league when we didn’t have a fence if you could hit it all the way to the blacktop you were usually good :).
     
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  11. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States




    “We’re going to win no matter what. I don’t care what the rules are.”
     
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  12. Scott Rohde

    Scott Rohde Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 28, 2018
    "I'm not going to spend more no matter what. I don't care what the rules are."

    - John Fisher probably if he were to speak to the press
     
  13. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Some people might take that to mean "We're going to ignore the rules or cheat!!!" That's ambition!! But I think he just means that they'll find a way to win regardless, within the scope of the rules. It's more a commitment to be smart and creative, and I'm sure they'll spend up to the max also.
     
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  14. Scott Rohde

    Scott Rohde Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 28, 2018
    Pretty sure nobody thought Lacob announced his plans to cheat.
     
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  15. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Well I have seen some people on here look admiringly at the MLS teams who either cheat or bend the rules as evidence of some kind of incredible "ambition". So it follows that they'd look to Lacob to try to do the same and think it's grand.
     
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  16. Scott Rohde

    Scott Rohde Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 28, 2018
    Doubtful.
     
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  17. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Sounded to me like Lacob plans to cheat. I thought he was quoting Bill Belichick at first, and then I remembered Bill tries to avoid complex sentences. :)
     
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  18. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Not that doubtful. A couple of quotes in general support of cheating in MLS, at some level.

     
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  19. SeaJayBee

    SeaJayBee Member

    Jun 23, 2008
    Saratoga
    Many years ago I had the privilege of speaking with Peter Schutz who was CEO of Porsche at the time. He was talking about Porsche’s recent dominance at Le Mans. The race organizers had recently changed the rules to limit Porsche’s dominance but they won anyway.

    The team wore T-Shirts that read:
    “You can change the rules but you can’t change the results.”

    That phrase has stuck with me over the years.
     
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  20. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    "Back to back" meetings to discuss "parallel paths" on the stadium project where there will be a "steep rake" and excellent "ROI".
     
  22. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fisher has taken the A’s from “Moneyball” to “the smallest analytics department in MLB”

     
  23. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    How John Fisher runs Earthquakes: Like A’s, but he shows up for them (sfchronicle.com)

     
  24. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Literally every NBA star past and present is joining a soccer ownership group... except one


    Just in the last two days, Grant HIll -> Orlando City and Jason Kidd -> Oakland Roots


     
  25. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    If Curry joins a soccer ownership group, it's going to be Charlotte. Or heck, Oakland Roots.
     

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