Auf geht's, Jungs: German Youth Discussion Thread Vol. V

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Jun 4, 2019.

  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    fun fact, 03 GK Ernst=two footed GK.

    Also, LMAO Hertha fans are annoyed as their #1 Dane Oliver Christensen they seem him as worst GK in 1BL and how Ernst already is more promising them him. Well that's what happens when 1BL clubs obsess over foreign GKs when so much GK talents exist in Germany and always try to block them too.
     
  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    2BL
    -Clean sheet and 4-0 W for 03 GK Kruth, getting a lot of praise!!!!!
    -03 CB Kleine-Bekel makes his 2BL/pro debut as 10 min sub for Kiel

    -03 W Stavridis makes his 2BL/pro debut as 10 min sub for FCK


    -04 CF Graf makes his 2BL/pro debut for Jahn as 12 min sub....too bad they are going down to 3rd Liga. But then again, 3rd Liga could be easier to breakthrough than 2BL.


    -Bunch of Youth at Furth trash 1st place team Darmstadt 4-0, LMAO
    Goal 1=00 M Raschl (2nd of season), Assist by 02 LB John (returning to 1BL Hoff confirmed)
    Goal 2=01 RB Asta (2nd of season), Assist by 02 LB John (returning to 1BL Hoff confirmed)
    Goal 3=03 AM/W Sieb (4th goal of season), Assist by 00 M/W Petkov (on loan from 1BL Augsburg)

    Goal 4=Assist by 00 M Raschl

    -05 CF Torsiello (5th cap), 05 M Raebiger (3rd cap), 05 M Neto (13th cap, has 3 XIs from that), 03 M Krahn (4th cap since comeback from long term injury) all played as subs.

    do think its a waste that Furth has top talent like Raebiger and did nothing with him all season. I know he had injury issues but huge waste. And then what, likely not wanting to play an overdribbler and then German footy bitches about where are the dribbling? German footy=walking contradiction.
     
  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Heidenheim got promoted to 1BL........youth wise this is a not so great thing
    -no II
    -good for 00 CB Siersleben and 00 M K.Sessa but that's it
    -01 M/W Kother will likely be dumped, same for 01 M Ramusovic
    -03 M Arslan and 03 CF Qenaj (poached) likely to be dumped on loan. Neither played much all season
    -04 GK Feller and 04 LB Jarju will likely get loan dumping from the ones who scored pro contract from U19.

    one really gets not much of anything from such a club and same for Darmstadt. Its really bad for German footy that clubs like Schalke and Hertha go down and replacements are crap for young players.

    we basically lost 2 teams with II with 2 teams without II.....
     
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  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    That's how it works: At Hertha BSC, the youth plays against Wolfsburg
    After relegation, Hertha BSC has to rely more on its own talents. The 2-1 win in Wolfsburg indicates that this path is viable.

    Ibrahim Maza was leaning against a pillar in the cabin aisle. He'd been doing this for a few minutes for no apparent reason, occasionally exchanging a word with the binder at his side and otherwise just silently observing what was going on around him. When Tjark Ernst, the young goalkeeper from Hertha BSC , went to the waiting journalists in the mixed zone, Maza also looked at it with interest. He had to laugh.

    It's hard to say whether he should make fun of Ernst a bit, who doesn't experience situations like this every day either. It was more likely that Ibrahim Maza, 17, was just in a good mood. May 27, 2023 will probably be treasured forever in his memories.

    It was the day that the young attacking player went down in the history of Hertha BSC. Ten minutes after coming on as a second-half substitute, he completed a counterattack to make it 1-1 against VfL Wolfsburg. In his second appearance for Hertha's pros, he scored the first goal. No goalscorer in the club's Bundesliga history, which has now been interrupted, was younger than Ibrahim Maza.
    The attacking player is gifted with a talent "like none of the Hertha BSC juniors," said Pal Dardai, Maza's professional coach, after his team's 2-1 win in Wolfsburg . He has known Maza for a small eternity, if you can even say that for a 17-year-old. The Hungarian coached him back in the U16s, but back then it took a few tough words to put the talent on the right track.

    Dardai said in Wolfsburg that he had asked the whole family to talk. "You, Ibo," he said on this occasion, "if you keep being so lazy, you won't get anywhere. You have a speed dribbling, indescribable. You are blessed by God with a tremendous talent. Please keep at it!” Maza seems to have taken the words of his youth coach, who in all likelihood will remain his professional coach, to heart.
    In the next few days, the decision should be made as to whether Pal Dardai Hertha will also train in the second division . There are actually no serious doubts, even if other names are brought into play from time to time – apparently from outside.

    Six players from their own youth were used in Wolfsburg, five were on the field in the final stages when it was a matter of defending the lead with all their might. Central defender Pascal Klemens, 18, and substitute striker Tony Rölke, 20, made their Bundesliga debut, as did goalkeeper Tjark Ernst, who came to Berlin from VfL Bochum before the season at the age of 19.

    "The young players at Hertha BSC are good. You have to give them a chance and also have a bit of patience,” said Dardai, who had let the future play out at the end of the season when Hertha was no longer sportingly important . "I think the decision wasn't bad."

    In the new season, then in the second division, there is presumably no alternative to this decision. In the absence of other financial options, the club will be forced to rely on talent from their own youth. The game in Wolfsburg showed that this path could be feasible.
    In the second half, when more and more talent was substituted on, "we saw a really good Hertha," said Dardai. “The atmosphere in the team worked. If we had shown that face earlier, we wouldn't be sitting here so sad. But we're not entirely sad because you're taking this game with you for next season."

    Maza scored the equaliser, Klemens became more confident in the back four by the minute – and Ernst kept goal as much as possible. The young goalkeeper was powerless in the early 0-1 in the second minute, but the 20-year-old then made several saves for his team. "Of course it's fantastic that it went like this for me," said Ernst. "It's a great feeling and makes me really proud."
    A minute before the end of regular time, Ernst prevented the late equalizer with a foot defense that would have brought Wolfsburg into the European Cup. "Tjark really made a world-class game," said Hertha striker Florian Niederlechner. "I think you can even mention the word, even if it's a big word."

    At 32, Niederlechner is one of the older and more experienced players who will have to form the backbone of an otherwise much younger team. Only with talent "you have no chance in the second division," he said. "It's going to be a difficult year. But it's definitely positive that we have good guys who come up from below."

    Nobody knows in detail what the squad will look like at the moment. Maybe Hertha has to give up players for financial reasons that you really want to keep. Even in the goalkeeping position, only one thing is clear: that nothing is clear.
    Should Hertha receive a lucrative offer for the previous number one Oliver Christensen , the club could not turn it down. After all, the game in Wolfsburg showed that Tjark Ernst could definitely be considered as Christensen's successor in such a case. "He already shows his class in training," said coach Dardai. "And today under pressure he played really well, that's nice."

    Ernst isn't 17 anymore. At his age, outstanding goalkeeping talents such as Manuel Neuer, Marc-André ter Stegen and Bernd Leno were already regular players in the Bundesliga. Nevertheless, Hertha is thinking about signing Marius Gersbeck.
    The goalkeeper of Karlsruher SC also comes from Hertha's youth , but is already 27. Since he is considered one of the best goalkeepers in the second division, Gersbeck is unlikely to be tempted by the prospect of playing Ernst's back-up on the bench sit.

    Pal Dardai has recently complained that Hertha has lost far too many talents in recent years . This is also due to the fact that the club did not plan strategically enough with them. This could also be the case with Tjark Ernst if Hertha actually brings Gersbeck back.
    Staying at Hertha and becoming number one, "that's obviously the big goal. It's a lot more fun to play than to sit on the bench," said Ernst after his professional debut. "It felt very good today and I can very well accept that it will be like this next season."
    https://www.tagesspiegel.de/sport/g...sc-die-jugend-vor-so-kanns-gehen-9891635.html
     
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  5. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    LOL


    the real question is
    why do you care so much?

    this guy never gets reality that Senior NT only needs 2ish players and rest=ALL part of pool. I don't think anyone sees Torsiello for example as Senior NT prospect.....so why do you care what happens to him or what he does???

    more than this if you have 04-05s U21 cycle, chances are Torsiello wouldn't make even U21....so.........

    that's the real issue.
    this clown is fixated on every single CF prospect......when his delusions would go away if he would just focus on the one who do have prospects. Because this guy can't avoid is obssessive compulsive disorder of shitting if he looks at every CF prospect in Germany.

    every few days, has to bitch about shorter CFs....like does your life revolve around their careers and progress???

    I recall back in 97 age group days, wouldn't stop bitching about the pool 24/7. I'm sure he's getting a nervous breakdown that Tietz is gonna play 1BL next season, LMAO.

    also Werner.....guy who has over 100 1BL goals, LMAO. Yeah piss poor example, we all know you hate him but he's a success story whether people like him or not.

    there are a LOT of CFs I don't rate at all, but I don't shit or obsess about them.

    I mean imagine, in youth thread, you talk about all CFs from every age group but come Senior NT and almost all will never play Senior NT and bunch of others will be lost to poaching by other countries too. So that is fallacy of youth obsession, I'm sure we will lose a lot to poaching as more we advance in age groups more majority of CFs=duals.

    waaaaa, supposedly no complete CFs in 2007 age group who trashed France twice, waaaaaa. Is 2007 the ONLY age group that exists in Germany? No, so stop complaining.
     
  6. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    this guy is also the same guy who
    1-writes off CFs in their teens
    2-always makes final judgment on CFs in their teens
    3-nobody can ever improve any facets of their game according to him. So if your meh at head, will be so forever, LOL

    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

    Bonus
    4-shits on teen CF due to height fastforward years later and that same teen gained height and now starts to hype him

    LULZ.
     
  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    my "worry" about CFs really is the dual aspects, not the crying about height or complete or whatever.

    the CF pool is gonna get stronger as younger CFs=better than entire 90s, problem is you can't perm cap them all so by default, we will lose a LOT of them, freebees to other NTs.....

    that is where one should be worried

    for quick example, could have made LONGER list if I wanted too,
    -Baumgart/Koln=high on Downs
    -Schalke=high on Topp
    -Mainz=high on Weiper
    -Wolfsburg=high on Pejcinovic
    -Dortmund=high on Brunner
    -Frankfurt=high on Alaoui

    Only Topp.........................is.............Full........................German.............

    on +, a LOT of 1BL and 2BL clubs seem more and more enthusiastic about German CFs and desire to integrate or give them chances looking better than 90s born. Also a LOT of them very early on show that RL is too easy for them. Not only RL but even 3rd Liga looking easy for the ones who do play there on loan too.
     
  8. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    There are a ton of examples of effective CF’s at pro level who are under 180cm. Height isn’t everything.

    Also writing off Torsiello who is only 18 is a joke, even more so Izekor + Etcibasi who are 16/15 years old. Imagine writing off a 15 year old lol.
     
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  9. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Good to see DFB u16 thrashing France. Our results/performances at pretty much all youth levels v other leading nations continue to be good.
     
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  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I expect that troll poster will obssessively fixate and have mental breakdown on 04 CF Sanne, hahahahahahahaha. And he has a very good header game as heading is about timing, movement and positioning. Thing is even the so called not good header game CFs, you still see them try to head and in interviews they say its something they need to work on. Not like they don't give a shit and have no interest in getting better at it.

    problem with shitting on height is that in general the ones who are shorter=faster. And you can't breakthrough 1BL being slow. Also fast CFs are something all 1BL clubs want anyways. Sure they want complete CFs but you still need fast players who can cause damage. Its why this fixation on trashing fast CFs is stupid. Reality classical CF is one of most useless one from the type of CFs.

    Torsiello is a 05 CF besides Weiper+Pejcinovic who are making progress in the real pro levels. So shitting on him while he makes good progress is stupid. Could make his 1BL debut next season.
     
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  11. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    yup from younger age groups, none of the bigger nations look better and when we lose its barely an L.

    this seems to be case when it comes to 2004-onwards.

    I currently don't think U21 of 00-01 will win this time. I just hope we can make SF and qualify for 2024 Olympics.....yes more Olympics after we bombed last one and Kuntz had like 15 players in squad, LMAO.
     
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  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Bild on Hertha Youth
    -on 03 CF Rolke
    Striker Tony Rölke (20) celebrated his professional debut as a joker and received special praise from Dardai for his efforts.

    -on 05 CB Klemens
    Klemens (18) was also on the pitch for the first time and played 90 minutes. A professional contract will soon follow the debut.

    -on 03 GK Ernst, rest of Ernst stuff is same as above. Also Bild, thinks he's making himself a strong candidate to become Hertha #1 next season.

    A Bundesliga debutant provided that in the second away treble of the season: Tjark Ernst (20) showed a tremendous performance, was not impressed by the early goal conceded by Kaminski (2nd minute) and kept his team in the game with seven shots on goal saved.

    But super debutant Ernst. Not only has it shown that it can perform at the highest level – it has also made us want more. Ernst about the regular place in goal: "That's the big goal. It's much more fun to play than to sit on the bench. I know I'm still in an extremely good situation. Being number 2 in a Bundesliga team is not something that can be taken for granted.”

    Nevertheless, Ernst makes it clear: "It felt very good, I can get used to the fact that it will be the same next season. But we'll see about that then."


    -the 05 AM/W Maza stuff is same as that article above.
    https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/...nst-um-stammplatz-kaempfen-84094972.bild.html
     
  13. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    What I’m seeing now in the media is way more talk of how Hertha should use their youth, hopefully relegation basically forcing them too will actually be a good thing for the club.
     
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  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Dardai has been saying what I've been saying for years
    -that Hertha looks and does better WITH Youth
    -that Hertha in past few years were neglecting youth for garbage waste of money transfers.
    -that Hertha blocking their own promising youth is also why TONS of them have bailed from club

    It would be nice to see Dardai continue as coach tbh.

    also on topic of Izekor....who cares about his height. He's highly rated at Bayer a club that hasn't integrated any Academy players since Havertz. He's also likely the 1st from their promising 2007 crop who will end up with his pro debut. So whether CF or W, who cares, having players breakthrough Bayer is much more important. Also 03 CB Fofana could be another, not too bad for his year 1/2 2BL loan, now needs to be XI all of next season and he could be in 1BL in Summer 2024.
     
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  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    French fans continue to be pissed about their continuing Ls from 2005, 2006, 2007 age groups vs Germany, LMAO. Also always cringed as frick to all the posters in here who cried and bitched when anyone here cough me cough didn't show respect to the French, LMAO. You guys realize that French fans HATE our guts, so why so defensive towards them.....cringe. France and Spain can frick off every day of the year!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There ARE NO FRIENDSHIPS IN A SPORT......everyone is an enemy, deal with it.

    France U16 coach said something like from the 3 games vs Germany, 2 Ls, 1 D (the D should have been an L, LOL). That the gap is shortened if France plays to the fullest concentration+having all the successful elements in place but the moment they don't, the gap widens by a LOT and VERY QUICKLY, LOL. So that means this French team will struggle to get results vs our boys. More reason for that is that its hard to play full potential vs Germany,

    Translation
    you need everything to click in JUST FOR THE GAP TO SHORTEN but that gap is there to begin with.
     
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  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    LMAO, France U20 at U20 WC are OUT from group of Korea, Gambia and Honduras....2 Ls and 1 W.....they couldn't even end up as one of top 4 best 3rd place teams, LULZ.
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    -France 2003=embarrassing themeslves at U20 WC
    -France 2004=embarrassed themeslves in U19 Euro Elite Round Qualifiers vs Norway
    -France 2005, 2006, 2007=LOADS of Ls vs Germany
     
  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    hahahahahahahahahaha
    "This concept is totally wrong and we will never develop a German version of Haaland, Harry Kane, Benzema, Osimhen, Lewandowski...or even Ivan Toney, Evan Ferguson, Kolo Muani, Hojlund and Alejo Veliz.

    The problem with all these 1.75m center forwards is that they can never play as “true 9s”. And Germany have failed to train a "true 9er" because they always believe that small, nimble and versatile attackers can be used as centre-forwards. But the fact of the matter is that this never happens in the Bundesliga, Serie A or the English Premier League. Gabriel Jesus struggled and didn't perform well for Arsenal (fans and media even questioned if he's a center forward and want Arsenal to buy a new number 9). In the Bundesliga almost all teams prefer tall, physical centre-forwards. Obviously, one would now assume that an Etcibasi or Cenny Neumann would be a better talent. But I always have my doubts if they do in 4-5 years. I just don't see a position for them at the pro level. Where can you play? no 9, no winger and no midfielder. We have produced too many “fake centre-forwards” in recent years (Timo Werner, Burkardt, Kevin Grimm, David Hummel, Lucas Copado, Dajaku, Sieb, Torseillo, Catak …) and although they were considered better talents in football when we were young she has no real position at the pro level.

    Center forwards usually take longer to develop. Above all, we have to find the right type of striker. I see no problem with Jakob Wiehe, Glenn Burger or Kingsley Madumere as a center forward than with Cenny Neumann (should develop as a winger) or Etcibasi. At least Wiehe/Burger/Madumere are the forward type that we can progress to and should play on the 9 instead of all those fake 9 options. No more false 9s and no more small/nimble attackers. We need to develop a "complete center forward" who can win a lot of tackles, duel with the ball and play physically against strong defenders. While you may think that Cenny Neumann or Etcibasi are better talents now, at the "9" they are no better options than Wiehe, Madumere or Burger. Center forwards have key elements and there should be stats to quantify: duels won, duels won, offensive duels won... if a small center forward has 17% duels won or 21% duels with the ball, it is very unlikely that you can play at a higher level as a center forward . We should always pay attention to the physical profile of a centre-forward because that's something coaches can't change and then they spend more time developing their game."


    WTF is this guy on??????????????
    Like Seriously he's definition of insane.

    why does he still harp on players YEARS Later.

    such stupid examples
    -Grimm=destroyed by injuries, hasn't played much in years and years. So what kind of nonesense example is that?? I wouldn't be shocked if he quits. But lets be honest he hates him because him and Dajaku were used by DFB for 2001 age group a LOT. But that was so long ago.....who cares.
    -Dajaku=nobody sees him as a CF but AM/W just because he played CF in Youth club and YNT doesn't mean he is one, LMAO, you can't be this stupid. And let's be honest, Dajaku will NEVER EVER play for Germany, he'll end up poached by Albania-Kosovo....so who cares
    -Hummel=Again, was never relevant in YNT and couldn't make it at Stuttgart II so went in random RL club. And reality he's type of player who will rot in lower levels for awhile too. So who says he'll ever make it to 2BL level for example. He's not gonna play U21 or Senior NT....Like never. So pointless example. He brings him up BECAUSE HE USED TO RATE HIM, no joke, went from hyping him up to later on writing him off.
    -Sieb=NOBODY sees him as a CF, guy is still triggered that DFB played him at false 9 for 2003 U19. The psychopath of this whole is that he HATES Sieb for the fact that DFB played him at CF.....like did he force anyone to play him CF? Constantly brings him up to shit on him just for all of that.....dumb as frick.Bayern II he performed better when playing W and only temporarily played CF. At Furth he plays more AM/W and plays off a CF usually Ache.

    -Werner=LOL, garbage example, over 100 1BL goals. His stats in NT are good too, he's won CC17 with Germany and CL. Massively successful career so far, LMAO.
    -Burkardt=scored double digits last season in 1BL but injuries screwed this current season. So he's 100% 1BL level, so who cares what you think. And nobody said he'll ever make Senior NT but we need a pool.
    -Copado, Torsiello, Catak=why bring them up what do they have to do with anything??? Brings up Copado when he hasn't been in NT for awhile. And Torsiello/Catak....the main CFs of 2005=Weiper and Pejcinovic,2 players who are highly rated and at end of day how many can make Senior NT anyways???........if you don't rate them.....don't....follow.....their......careers.....

    hahahahahaha,
    "Center forwards usually take longer to develop."

    yet he shits 24/7 on teenagers who have yet to breakthrough pros and still play in youth clubs, LOL. And he at one point, started shitting on ALL German Youth CFs because none of them are Haaland. Less we forget that this clown was hyping players like Sargent-Hoppe, some random Australian CF, some random Finnish CF etc just to shit on Germans and ALL of them flopped, LOL.

    and entire last paragraph is basically
    waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, DFB didn't pick CFs I like waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. And that's what he always does too. Makes a huge fit because its always about him and what he likes and what he wants.

    the problem isn't the 175m its your none-existant brain of yours. Let it go, one reads his posts would think 99% of CF pool was short players. Just a deranged person who needs a psychatrist.

    Again, you DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW ANYONE'S CAREER. If players don't interest you focus on the one who do. But he can't do that, he gets triggered and need to shit,

    constantly posts about Germany has no CFs in 1 post to another posts listing over a dozen very promising CFs. He's legit deranged.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    and funny part for years and years he's hyped soooooooo many CFs from 90s born-01s and vast majority of ones he hyped didn't amount to anything.

    and ones who he hyped were in that 185-195m regions, LOL.

    so height has nothing to do with success. I'm sure he's triggered that a lot of the shorter ones actually managed good careers, LEL.
     
  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    but in all honestly why is it such a hard thing to understand that
    -YNT is BS because Age groups are BS
    -post U21=no more Age groups and its every CF vs every CF.
    -Look at current gap 93-Fullkrug to 05-Weiper/Pejcinovic.....that's combination of 13 age groups playing 1BL.....not 1 or 2.......I'm being generous with 93 its actually 88-05 currently.
    -only a very few can make Senior NT.

    imagine 2007 wins against France and he goes on TM forum, twitter etc just to bitch about CFs from all age groups that are short......what do short CFs of ALL age groups have to do with 2007 age group??? NOTHING
     
  20. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    has obsession with shitting on Copado these days.....why????

    2004 age group CF focus were Topp and Tresoldi, followed by Marino/Sanne.
    Where is Copado in this?????

    would think Downs could be next up in terms of 2004 focus too and that's because he has chance to breakthrough 1BL. 2BL is full of 2004 1st team prospect CFs too.

    the 2004 CF pool isn't a small one. So obsession on shitting on Copado shows how deranged he is tbh. Even more so because one would assume he's shitting on him because dfb kept using him.......they weren't, so........and why does he always list him these days to shit on as if he's a dfb regular, he isn't.......

    he's not even involved and we all know he'll never breakthrough Bayern. Still making his debut at 17 y/o at Bayern is nice achievement but will have to make it elsewhere and that's fine needs game time more important than club brand. Who knows where he goes next too.

    but he'll go on rant on Copado for being 1.81m tall and will pretend that Topp, Tresoldi, Downs, and list goes on and on don't exist? Like that is stupid as they get.

    like if Copado doesn't interest you, don't watch him, don't follow his career, its super super simple thing.

    or Torsiello and Catak......we have 2 top CF talents in Weiper/Pejcinovic.....we don't need more. Actually having 2 top CF talents in any age group is pretty big #s. And 2/2 are being integrated in 1BL super young too. Also again Catak+Torsiello=more duals, who says they will end up playing for Germany??? And Bosnia and Italy constantly poach from us too.

    more deranged is when he constantly bitches about 170s, he legit ignores all the ones who aren't that tall and pretends the short ones are only ones that exist.
     
  21. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    when one looks at how vast vast majority of CF pool=duals its more reason why one has to calm down. Majority will end up poached or not good enough for Senior NT, so imagine, years and years of bitching on X or Y and they get poached or aren't relevant, LMAO, that's idiotic.

    once they get poached=they aint our problem anymore. Like how Matanovic+Gedikli ain't our problem anymore for example.

    if one really only cares about Senior NT, then advice, ONLY focus on ones with real Senior NT prospects. You don't need to bitch and fixate on pool of options or every CF from every age group.
     
  22. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    on final note,
    what's stupid is one is actually serious, they would admit that the German CF pool is much much better than the majority of competition across of Europe.

    Pengland has almost nothing, super Kane dependent, Spain can't dev CFs, Italy has some promising CFs but not a huge amount and their CFs tend to be ones that take more time etc.

    Brazil NOT in Europe but they always bitch about how they haven't dev any major CFs in LONG Time.

    just look at U17 Euro and how Brunner is one of top scorer of tourney but reality Brunner should be leading the scoring table by a mile. In almost every game he's not far off from scoring min 1 and some like France match and Swiss (for 10 men Germany) he should have bagged hat trick. Like crazy that he was super close in scoring hat trick vs 11 men Swiss, LOL.

    its clear that Brunner is one of most promising 2006 CFs in Europe and that Weiper+Pejcinovic some of most promising 2005 CFs in Europe too.
     
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  23. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    You like to see it, 02-03s,

    1BL
    -03 AM/W Musiala scores the TITLE winning goal for Bayern

    3rd Liga
    -02 CF Woltemade (on loan) scored the TITLE winning goal for Elversberg. From 3:00-onwards,


    that's 2/3 of the German pros where 02-03s were the difference makers for trophies!!!
     
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  24. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #20649 Alex C, May 29, 2023
    Last edited: May 29, 2023
    The thing is, if you don’t like or rate smaller CF’s that’s fine (although a bit dumb imo), but even if you ignore them we have several promising complete CF’s emerging anyway.

    To keep up this negative mindset is silly, I really like Christian Wuck’s comments around the u17 tourney, constantly positive and expecting the team to perform and win against hyped countries like Portugal & France, rather then talking them up like we are somehow inferior. This is translating into a winning mentality in the players. Hopefully more at the DFB learn from this, no need to talk down any of our age groups, it doesn’t help anyone.

    No reason not to be positive about our up and coming CF talents, of course not all of them will become 1BL players or fulfill their potential but the pool is pretty big and so I’m confident enough will develop. I mean you even see players like Fullkrug at 29 becoming relevant and top scorer in BL and possibly Ducksch or even Selke heading towards doing the same next season if they keep recent form going, just shows how you can get late developers so the more CF’s make it into pro football the more we will see playing 1BL and improving at different rates.
     
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  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    we need more unapolegetic coaches and DFB members. Bitching 24/7 and shitting on own players at every chance is stupiest thing ever. You even have Rudiger who says Senior NT is playing too nicely, like WTF is this shit. Arrogance and being stone cold towards other countries need to make a comeback. I'm not huge on Wuck but he does tend to do well as a coach for YNTs.

    the ones who bitch about German CFs also have memory issues because over last like what 20 years, we have called up numerous CFs on the older side aka LATE BLOOMERS. Issue Goes back to that teenage and early 20s fixation that most have and looking at other countries has blinded those same people to reality of what Germany is.

    fun fact if one pays attention, its super rare that a young CFs actually does well in Senior NT. Compare Young Gomez to Older Gomez.....WOW HUGE difference for quick example.

    so older CFs are actually better to focus on tbh. Although the dual CF issue might force our hands.

    yup, hope next season, we get another German winning top scorer. There is no Haaland-Lewa level CF in 1BL as of now which makes it easier.

    on sidenote, interesting to seeing some Spanish fans see Brunner as a Mbappa/Haaland hybrid.
     

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