General PDL

Discussion in 'United Soccer Leagues' started by QuietType, May 11, 2012.

  1. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ====================
    So 13 out and 20 in ?
    Life in the lower divisions
    Still, interesting how many moving over from NPSL & UPSL
    Any idea how many move from USL-2 to those leagues ?
     
  2. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Vermont Green FC is in Vermont
    We’ve surpassed 750 season ticket holders for the upcoming Vermont Green FC season. More than double our inaugural season numbers!
     
  3. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To be quite honest, I have no recollection of any USL2 team going to NPSL or UPSL...or any other league that isn't professional.
     
  4. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the initial franchise fee for USL2 is probably at least 10x more than the amount required by the NPSL, so very unlikely that anyone paying that initial fee would want to move down the ladder.
     
  5. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is zero truth to this.
     
  6. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In 2009 I purchased a NPSL franchise for $5K, USL PDL wanted $50K...you do the math.
     
  7. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cool. Way to use numbers from 14 years ago. Totally relevant today.
     
  8. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Feb 12, 2020 :
    USL2 franchise fee is $75K.
    NPSL is $10K.
     
  9. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Both are false. I know first-hand.

    Even then, it still negates your original point of 10x.
     
  10. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Back on topic, and maintaining accuracy...

    Recently there was a club that plays USL2 also enter UPSL, The Villages. Without trying to look through the horrible UPSL website and trying to sift through which teams actually play...that is one USL2 club that does have UPSL involvement.
     
  11. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    USL League Two will begin their big pushes starting any day now. The way it looks, there will be roughly 20 new USL2 teams in 2023:
    • Academica SC (Turlock, CA - former NPSL)
    • Boulder County United (Lafayette, CO - new club)
    • Brevard SC (Melbourne, FL - new club)
    • Capo FC (San Juan Capistrano, CA - new club)
    • FC Carolinas (Waxhaw, NC - new club)
    • Rochester FC (Rochester, MN - former UPSL)
    • St. Charles FC (St. Charles, MO - new club)
    • North Alabama SC (Huntsville, AL - former NPSL)
    • United PDX (Portland, OR - new club)
    • FC Tucson (Tucson, AZ - former USL1)
    • Sarasota Paradise (Sarasota, FL - new club)
    • Redlands FC (Redlands, CA - new club)
    • Virginia Marauders FC (Winchester, VA - new club)
    • Arizona Arsenal SC (Mesa, AZ - new club)
    • Bavarian United SC (Milwaukee, WI - former UPSL)
    • RKC Soccer Club (Racine, WI - new club)
    • Swan City SC (Lakeland, FL - new club)
    • FC Buffalo (Buffalo, NY - former NPSL)
    • Ironbound SC (Newark, NJ - new club)
    • St. Petersburg FC (St. Petersburg, FL - new club)
    Final team for 2023 announced.
     
  12. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
  15. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Time for the 2024 announcements to come around...

    New:
    Hill Country Lobos (Kyle, TX - new club - 9/5)


    Out:
    TBD
     
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  17. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    What league?
    This is about half way between Austin and San Antonio. Kind of surprised not in San Marcos the university town.
     
  18. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is the PDL thread, should be USL2 now. But, it’s just been kept as PDL.

    I put “Kyle” because that’s what the press release mentioned. There was a semi-mention of Austin. So, possibly the home venue will be more that direction?
     
  19. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    My daughter lived in San Marcos for a while and we went to Texas State Women's soccer game- nice little facility probably perfect for USL-2. Kyle is growing area, as is everything up and down I-35. But I really wouldn't call it an Austin suburb. With MLS in Austin now, USL-C Bold leaving Austin and of course USL-C San Antonio, not really sure what an USL-2 team markets towards. Also have to remember there is also an MLS-3 Next Pro team too.
     
  20. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Time for the 2024 announcements to come around...

    New:
    Hill Country Lobos (Kyle, TX - new club - 9/5)
    Club Brand TBA (Utah County, UT - new club ran by Utah United Academy - 9/19)


    Out:
    TBD
     
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  21. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Asked...in a thread....called "General PDL."
     
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  22. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Time for the 2024 announcements to come around...

    New:
    Hill Country Lobos (Kyle, TX - new club - 9/5)
    Club Brand TBA (Utah County, UT - new club ran by Utah United Academy - 9/19)
    Charlottesville Blues FC (Charlottesville, VA - new club - 9/28)
    River Light FC (Aurora, IL - new club - 10/3)



    Out:
    TBD
     
  23. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Keeping up with the USL2 changes…

    New:
    Hill Country Lobos (Kyle, TX - new club - 9/5)
    Club Brand TBA (Utah County, UT - new club ran by Utah United Academy - 9/19)
    Charlottesville Blues FC (Charlottesville, VA - new club - 9/28)
    River Light FC (Aurora, IL - new club - 10/3)
    Salem City FC (Winston-Salem, NC - new club - 10/18)


    Out:
    NC Fusion


    New club Salem City FC comes from private ownership taking over the NC Fusion departure.
     
  24. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know there are lists somewhere that show every team that died in every league and probably a list of every league that came and went, but is there a list of teams that were announced and for one reason or another , never even played?
     
  25. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can't say I have seen or heard of one of those lists. Can't say I'd know of any USL2/PDL teams that fall in that category either, at least over the last ~10 years. There were a couple that possibly could fall in that category, but then pandemic happened and delayed their start.

    Maybe just Louisville City? Although, I'm not sure they were ever announced, but just committed to having a team, but backed out right after pandemic time. I think their first season was supposed to be Summer 2020.
     

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