German Fraulein National Team 2020 & beyond

Discussion in 'Germany Mädels: NT and Frauen-Bundesliga' started by hotjam2, Feb 26, 2020.

  1. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
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    HOW... how did you manage to get to this, from me simply stating the obvious about the games final score...:confused:. Me simply stating MVT not having a replacement for Oberdorf, turns into this team being in need of drastic changes coming from you lol. Don't you see how reactionary your take is...?

    MVT notoriously bad at selecting her teams for friendlies, not even attempting to counter or respond to the tactics of her opponents. Again, she'd set out another team selection that wasn't working, and only make everything much worse over the following 90 mins.

    And knowing this, my point is that the final score this time is still.... 0-0. Nothing about this game having any correlation to England, or their Euro win on home soil...:rolleyes: I made no excuses, and said this was another poor performance, but with very obvious reasons as to why.
     
  2. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
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    OK... this dismissing the quality and importance of Oberdorf routine is becoming tiresome... but trying to somehow randomly attach your false reality, to me saying Wolfsburg somehow incapable of beating SNK St. Pölten in the UWCL, due to not having Oberdorf in the team.. what...:confused:

    I mean... if we're just going to lie about stuff now, you could have at least formed a more creative scenario than me being dumb enough to believe Wolfsburg unable to function without Oberdorf when facing the mighty St Pölten....:giggle:
     
  3. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
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    #2528 Batfink, Mar 17, 2023
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    But... but...
    "Lineup means starting eleven(not entire squad). So going with the lineup vs Sweden, an very athletic/quick transition type opponent that Germany previously had an tough time dealing with
    So for me; HENDRICH, FROHMS, OBERDORF BUHL are for sure starters, the rest;"

    I was replying to you saying this^^^^ where your trying to suggest MVT select a team of athletes to compete with Sweden, when we all know MVT doesn't select her teams in this manner, or adjust her tactics during friendlies where it normal now that Germany typically appear bad.

    And this having just witnessed MVT use some of the worst combinations of players to face a more athletic USwnt twice, featuring one of the worst CM trio's you could imagine in the 2nd half of the second match, that still saw Germany (again) only lose by one goal margin difference...:whistling:

    I feel you'd have to be intentionally dense to suggest those games between USA and Germany allowed us to witness either coaches WC best 11's, or most effective tactics so early. But your being very naïve for not understanding how Germany's awful second games 2nd half an actual far worse reflection of the USwnt at that moment in time.

    Because I'm sure if the same awful defense and CM trio of Hagel - Dallmann - Magull had been facing a genuinely strong opponent that required drastic change from Germany, the second half should have seen the final score become far more embarrassing for MVT, no...?
     
  4. Batfink

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    Attilan
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    #2529 Batfink, Mar 17, 2023
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    Nemesis...:ROFLMAO: Looks like somebody missed me openly praising Krumbiegel for finally being a relevant player within the two games Vs the USwnt lol...:rolleyes: But lets continue with this nonsense....

    How about your goofy ass finally answer my simple question concerning the effectiveness of Dallamann first.... and then I'll waste energy on this latest garbage your proposing here lol.

    Stop running, just answer this honestly....
    and I will instantly reply to this stupid new scenario your trying to craft around Krumbeigel.
     
  5. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
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    LOL... when you commit something new to your memory, does something else less important have to leave...?

    17.02.2022: 1-1 Vs Spain... terrible performance, fortunate draw.
    20.02.2022: 1-0 Vs Canada... terrible performance, deserved defeat.
    23.02.2022: 3-1 Vs England... Not terrible this time, but another poor performance in a defeat.
    12.04.2022: 3-2 Vs Serbia... One genuinely ugly defeat... :ROFLMAO::speechless:
    THREE MONTHS LATER
    08.07.2022: 4-0 Vs Denmark.. another impressive win within a 7 game streak, featuring 21 goals for, 1 goal against...:coffee:

    So, can we please stop talking complete nonsense lol. As we've all seen significantly worse performances take place before Germany would end up producing some of the best football we've seen from the wnt in YEARS; resulting in them feeling very unlucky not to win an 9th Euro...:whistling:
     
  6. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
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    #2531 Batfink, Mar 17, 2023
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    o_O, no lol... none of this remotely close to mirroring my actual opinion. As I've openly said MVT's decision to use Nüsken and Anyomi in the match Vs France almost cost Germany numerous goals, with most of my praise simply revolving around Popp, and the second half subs featuring the introduction of Lohmann and Brand.

    While it seems like your seeing Cyrillic whenever I mention the wnt's Spain or Japan...:rolleyes:, I'll repeat again... my pleasure having Germany beat Spain at the Euro, mainly coming from witnessing Germany finally display strong tactical discipline again, in ways it would confirm to me MVT's team more than a false dawn.

    I'd even showcase disappointment not having Putellas part of the Euro's too, as I wanted to see Germany's mid-field 3 with Oberdorf, finally face Spain's much lauded mid-field trio, after Oberdorf and Putellas failed to meet each other during last seasons UWCL semi finals.
     
  7. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
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    Insults...:laugh: stop creating so many false narratives, and maybe I'll begin to take you more seriously.

    I might not care, or pretend to care about rival wnt's anymore, instead only watching them now to asses where Germany are. But I'm not going to head into their fan forums, and start talking the kinds of madness I'm seeing you post in here lol.

    Pretending Oberdorf, Magull, Lohmann, Hegering, Huth etc... are bad players, or claiming MVT a tactical genius, before instantly forgetting this to start suggesting Germany in need of drastic changes; yeah, this type of behavior might see you get challenged...:rolleyes:
     
  8. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
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    Early look at the WWC away jersey....:ninja:
     
  9. Batfink

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    Attilan
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  10. hotjam2

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    finding a place for 29 players within 2 games will most likely bring little cohesion, lol. Rejoining will be Leupolz & Linder(though she has yet to be capped), Brazil be interesting sjnce it could verly the round of 16 opponent for Germany.
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  11. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
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    Oh... DFB, you never learn...:rolleyes:

    Before they've even seen how Germany's women perform at the WC, they've just announced MVT extended her contract until 2025, wow...:confused:
     
  12. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
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    Nothings changed... MVT was never planning on using these friendly games to construct a better squad...
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    I've stopped pretending these games related towards anything important anymore lol. The match Vs Brazil basically Marozsan's goodbye game, where nobody should be expecting to witness MVT's plans for the WC.
     
  13. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
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    With MVT needlessly destroying Nüsken, and Marozsan stepping away from the wnt, the return of Leupolz could become very important for Germany's potential WC success.

    This team still generally horrible without the combination of Oberdorf, Hegering, Hendrich, providing the teams strong defensive base. The addition of Leupolz's experience and flexibility as a CM/DM, could genuinely help offset some of MVT's inability to utilize players outside her first choice 14...:cautious:

    -------------- Magull/Lattwein ---------------- Lohmann/Däbritz ---------------
    ------------------------------- Oberdorf/Leupolz -----------------------------------
     
  14. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
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    The fact it's taken this long for Linder to be selected for the senior wnt is honestly ridiculous lol. But again, where's Küver...?

    Only Germany's wnt program could find a way to intentionally waste it's best defensive talent lol. I find it shocking to see a prospect on Küver's level left out of the senior wnt squad, so the coaches can continue wasting everyone's time trying to convert FW/AM/CM's into FB's or CB's...:confused:
     
  15. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
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    I'm sure Gudorf, Rall, Linder, should have ALL been tested for the wnt's RB role, with Küver for me the best option in this Gwinn-less scenario, as she's able to play RB/LB at a high standard, but also showcasing all the attributes of a potentially elite CB too.

    And his for a wnt where MVT still headed towards a WC with Doorsoun, Kleinherne, and Anyomi, as her 2nd choice defenders...:speechless:, it's frustrating knowing better/more suitable choices still exist on the outside looking in.
     
  16. Batfink

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  17. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
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    Germany qualified for U17 Championship in Estonia. North Macedonia(13:0), Hungary(5:2) and Portugal(2:2).
     
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  18. Batfink

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    Attilan
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    The context here is better when you understand Germany were two goals down Vs the hosts, and fought back to gain passage into the Finals on goal difference...:speechless:

    The junior teams always seeming to be lead by a new coach, creating various issues with the continuity of the teams playing styles, it's still impressive to see the various groups of players at u17 showcase such a genuine fighting spirit...:thumbsup:
     
  19. Batfink

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    Attilan
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    Oh... and I'm saying this now. Seeing the talent available to her now, if Kathrin Peter can't qualify and then at a minimum reach a Euro's u19 final, she needs to be replaced...:cautious:

    After the horrendous u20 WC, the following disappointing u19 Euro group stage exit, and more disappointing during the recent Euro 19 qualification process, she'll have absolutely NO excuses left if she still can't create a winning team with all the legit u17 talent moving into her new u19 squad.
     
  20. hotjam2

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    Germany's u19 men's NT just got beat by the girls u19 Euro squad! Read all about it( but you need Facebook)\
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  21. Batfink

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    Simon missing, this would have been a great opportunity to finally bring (future wnt regular) Küver into the senior squad...:rolleyes:
     
  22. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
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    I don't know why the shorts and socks couldn't have retained the trend of being an all green away variant...:unsure:
     
  23. hotjam2

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    Kulver would have made it by now(and even Euros)wasn’t for the ACL & one year recovery. She’s only 19 & could still have growth spurts(considering her tall, lanky body/build)I think she’ll best to wait & get her geared up for the next Euro cycle(with all the relatively easy qualifying opponents involved)/or at least, right now, not put in the NOT so capable hands of MVT(lol). Likewise these two upcoming opponents have not only experienced, but dirty players as——you saw what van de Donk did to Leupolz/it was Egurrola that last touched Miedema when she got her ACL. I remember her too stalking & intimidating Buhl with an series of professional fouls(from last year’s BM vs Lyon/CL match)
    29 players being picked was already enough. So no need for a replacement.
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    Brazil will be missing Debhina, Marta Ludmilla Tainara—possibly the other starting CB, Rafealle, since she played in Arsenal’s first game vs BM but not in the 2nd.
    Nonetheless missing an hefty amount of their top notch players. Saw them vs the US at SBC/really good individual talent, but haven’t really technically progressed; I mean still trying to take on opponents 1v1 at midfield instead passing & waiting to do that till they get up front. I thought the US routed them fairly easy even though they had all those above mentioned names in that match.
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    Netherlands will be missing Miedema & Groenen, and don’t even know what’s happened with Martens anymore, didn’t even play in the first PSG/WOB match/started the 2nd one, but an very underwhelming performance got her subbed early in the 2nd half
     
  24. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
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    Lattwein broke her collarbone Vs Bremen, and is now replaced in the squad by Minge.

    So I see, MVT's willing to replace some people...:rolleyes:
     
  25. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
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    I wouldn't expect her to play... I just think it would be really smart of the wnt coaches to introduce her to the standards of training/playing within the senior wnt now, as it should be damn obvious Küver a high quality defense prospect, and (injury free) likely to be a long time senior wnt regular too,

    Providing Küver early contact with the senior team now, literally no different to when MVT would introduce another major talent like Oberdorf to the team early. This simply another versatile talented prospect, who this time posses all the traits of an elite defender/CB, and could benefit the team, and herself massively, gaining access to a 2023 WC squad role...:whistling:
     

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