Pre-match: MLS Cup Final! -Fire v. DC United 4.1.23 7:30 AppleTV+

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by xtomx, Mar 31, 2023.

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What happens tonight in this MOST important game of the week.

  1. Fire Win

    7 vote(s)
    46.7%
  2. Fire Win and dominate

    4 vote(s)
    26.7%
  3. Fire Draw

    2 vote(s)
    13.3%
  4. Fire Lose

    4 vote(s)
    26.7%
  5. Something STUPID will happen, as it must!

    10 vote(s)
    66.7%
  6. Come on, Joe and Georg (without the "e"), where the f' is our new DP9?!?!?

    7 vote(s)
    46.7%
  7. Let's discuss Ezra's formations and tactics!

    1 vote(s)
    6.7%
  8. Rubber Dick? RUBBER DICK!

    9 vote(s)
    60.0%
  9. Malört

    9 vote(s)
    60.0%
  10. Good beer!

    3 vote(s)
    20.0%
  11. Still no jersey sponsor. Fail.

    6 vote(s)
    40.0%
  12. There is a "Golden Girls" Pop-Up Restaurant at Whisky Business in Wicker Park opening soon!

    2 vote(s)
    13.3%
  13. Sadly, Dick Durban has endorsed Paul Vallas. Disappointing

    6 vote(s)
    40.0%
  14. Twelve 7-11 stores have been robbed at gun point this week. WTF is up with that? Rob Macy's, instead

    5 vote(s)
    33.3%
  15. Head to the Adler Planetarium to watch Dark Side of the Moon show. It looks pretty cool.

    3 vote(s)
    20.0%
  16. Andrew Hauptman took a bit of the money he stole from MLS and Joe to buy a $28 million mansion.

    2 vote(s)
    13.3%
  17. Hauptman is listing his $30 mill Brentwood pad

    2 vote(s)
    13.3%
  18. I sure am glad that douche nozzle is no longer connected the Fire!!!!!!!!!!

    8 vote(s)
    53.3%
  19. The Signature Room at the Hancock is for sale. Anyone want to chip in? Great views.

    2 vote(s)
    13.3%
  20. Well, Trump has been indicted. A good day for the Rule of Law, maybe.

    10 vote(s)
    66.7%
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  1. Mikebsiu

    Mikebsiu Member+

    Mar 15, 2008
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
    Wtf just happend there???
     
  2. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Kai Kamara almost with another stoppage time winner.
     
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  3. Mikebsiu

    Mikebsiu Member+

    Mar 15, 2008
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
    Omg what a freaking save.
     
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  4. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
     
  5. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Well, that was another 45 minutes.
     
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  6. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Fire with 58% possession
    9 corners to 3 and still I think they are lucky to walk away with a tie at home.
     
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  7. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    just so little attacking power out there
     
  8. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    DC had more shots on target I believe. 3-2?
     
  9. lurak

    lurak Member+

    Aug 24, 2007
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    All I saw at the game were 2 bad teams.
     
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  10. lurak

    lurak Member+

    Aug 24, 2007
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    All I saw at the game were 2 bad teams.
     
  11. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Yes... 11 shots to 9 in Fire favor yet more on target for DC.
     
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  12. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    Other than the Kamara header, never felt like either team was gonna score

    still thought there were some good individual performances— just too many guys that aren’t gonna do much with the ball
     
  13. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    My windows are still shaking from the woodwork rattler! What a blast. Fire lucky to survive that and the no peno call on Czichos.

     
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  14. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    which Rafa play should have been a penalty?

    I was at the game and don’t remember a close call
     
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  15. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    #65 Pennsylvania Dave, Apr 1, 2023
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2023
    Well perusing the official MLS highlights it was not included in the reel. From memory it was after Mueller tried to roof it near post and before Kamara's almost goal. Czichos first made a sloppy tackle near the sideline and could/should have received a possible yellow but did not and within a couple minutes had the second no call. I'd have to peruse the replay to find the exact minute but the announcers agreed it was a likely peno but the referee never reviewed. I agreed with the announcers. Give me some time and I will look for the exact minute.

    EDIT: the 69th minute or 68:19 to be exact. DC dribbling along the end line drops ball to Fountas and Czichos intervenes and tries to position his body to block/sheild the ball and Fountas gets tripped before either has the ball and goes down and ball magically megs Czichos and hits his back leg. Whistle blows and call is on Fountas and not the other way around. DC technical staff is livid and Czichos looks incredibly guilty but Fire smartly restart quickly before it goes to review. Incidentally it is the play directily BEFORE the same guy Fountas blasts the post.
     
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  16. splunge63

    splunge63 Member+

    Mar 30, 2014
    west burbs
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    not sure if that was peak flaccidity, but it was pretty close. ugh
     
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  17. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    ah, I do remember that

    did indeed seem like a DC foul live from my seats
     
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  18. Gobernador Blanco

    Chicago Fire
    Mexico
    Jul 30, 2022
    Upper Midwest
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    That was an uninspiring game. Let's blame the bad weather again. Three more April home games to go
     
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  19. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Called that one, but Kai Kamara almost managed to win the game.
     
  20. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kacpar desrved to be taken out- so frustrating watching him tonight, regressing back to his norm. How does a dude so tall fail to be any kind of a presence in the air, and instead end up losing almost every header he contends for, often to players 4-5 inches shorter than him? But what was most telling was what happened after he left - we actually had a target striker!(!) Unfortunately Kamara is roughly 127 years old, but his positioning without the ball on the attack is infinitely better than what we get with Kacpar and it really exposes how shorthanded we are with him in the 9 spot.

    While Shaq wasn't playing, Mueller did a good job in the second half of filling his 'yell at your teammates and pout around the field' role. At one point around the 70th minute he basically screamed out 'can somebody get me the ball' clear as day. In his defense, he was open quite a bit on the wing, but also, maybe find a better way to comminicate it.

    Haile-Selassie looks good out there, until he doesn't. Gets open, moves the ball upfield, but doesn't seem to be able to play the ball to teammates particularly well in the attacking half or finish. Hopefully it's just him adapting to the team and the league, but when Shaq is healthy, you have to wonder where he fits in. I think the idea was for him to be the starter with Guti subbing in for him (or any of the midfield slots) as needed, but I can't say I'd support Ezra if Guti is the odd man out upon Shaq's return, no matter where he slots everybody.

    Dean isn't the answer at LB, and I have to wonder why Navarro isn't out there. I know Ezra had mentioned that we're 4-5-1 offensively but a 3-4-3 (or maybe more realistically some sort of 3-6-1) on offense (or something like that?) with the wingbacks moving forward, but Dean doesn't seem too confident on the ball, or an improvement over Navaro. I did notice Gaston dropping back on free kicks from our half and lining up with Czichos and Teran, and Souquet was definitely pressing on the right side, so idk.

    It will be good to have Fede and Shaq back, and I'm interested to see what we do with Torres when he returns too. I've heard we could use him as a CDM, but I can't see him starting over Gaston or a healthy Fede, and there's no room for him to start in the more attacking midfield roles, so it may end up we have a young DP slot used up on a depth piece.

    Anyway, glad we got the clean sheet- poor Brady- ends up being the second youngest goalkeeper in the entire history of the league to record a shutout, and he doesn't even get the team record. He did look solid tonight, but it seems like him Czichos don't quite have the rapport that Czichos did with Gaga at this point in the season last year.

    What a weird team - we get an exciting energetic win on the road against Miami, and then can't score against an anemic DC team at home despite a ton of possession and plenty of shots (but few on frame).
     
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  21. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Things from the press conferences and other press stuff:

    Rooney was happy with the point after the stretch they've had, but felt they should've gotten the win. Frustrated with VAR.

    Ezra basically saying that the only guys he had on the bench were defensive players, explaining why he only made two subs. Sure, there's some injuries, but it's also a lack of players in general in that area. Mentions Missael, but says that he preferred the one striker formation.

    Something echoed by Ezra, Mueller, and Guti is how direct DC played. Was not how they wanted to play. Say their style is more possession-based and keeping the ball on the ground.

    Something interesting I heard connecting something Rooney talked about with what Guti talked about was second balls. Rooney said that was a big focus in the second half and Guti called it out as well as something that this game really turned to. Likely due to that direct playing style from DC.

    And it sounds like Kamara has accepted a role as that super sub to get that late goal.
     
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  22. goldclover

    goldclover Member+

    Mar 25, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I love Kamara as a super sub striker. Now just if we can get that game breaking DP striker......
     
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  23. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The way things are going I suspect when healthy Torres will come in as a 65th minute sub only to get re-injured and be back on the injured list so I wouldn't stress out over it too much. He's played what, about 3 games?
     
  24. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    And "played" is a bit of an overstatement.
     
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  25. Gobernador Blanco

    Chicago Fire
    Mexico
    Jul 30, 2022
    Upper Midwest
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    This is me just yelling into the void but our attendance is unacceptable. Several other northern markets have bad weather too and our able to sell out or at least break 5 figures. And some of them have bad teams as well. That’s two in a row below 10k (and not even close). To me that’s a major red flag on where the team stands in the eyes of the public
     

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