U17 World Cup 2023 (Nov 10 - Dec 2)

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  1. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Started today! Brazil had a 2 goal lead until the 87th minute, but conceded a draw to hosts Ecuador in the late match.

    Like the U20, the schedule is really tight, with group matches every day. Five teams per group means each one gets one matchday off.

    Brazil's remaining matches:
    April 1 x Chile
    April 3 x Colombia
    (bye on April 5)
    April 7 x Uruguay

    Top 3 teams make it to the final round. Top 4 of the final round qualify for the World Cup in Peru, this November. (Plus one playoff spot, so 4.5 total).
     
  2. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Like Thursday, Brazil went up 2x0 in the first half with 2 goals by Kauã Elias. This time though instead of giving up the draw, Brazil extended the lead late to win 3x0.

    Colombia and Ecuador play the other group match soon and Uruguay have the bye. Brazil plays x Colombia on Monday, gets Wednesday off and plays Uruguay on Friday.

    Highlights:

     
  3. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
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    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
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    Brazil
    #3 Ombak, Apr 3, 2023
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2023
    Brazil 3x1 Colombia.

    Didn't really follow this one, but I'll add highlights when I can. Brazil are qualified for the final round. Last match of the first round is Friday, versus Uruguay. If Brazil win they will be first or, depending on Ecuador's results, second in group A.

    0x0 at the half, Brazil scored on a PK (Dudu), but Colombia tied it 10 minutes later. Riquelme scored for Brazil almost immediately after the tieing goal and Rayan scored a late goal.

    Brazil also got a red card late but the match ended 3x1.



    Doesn't include the red card, but otherwise pretty complete highlights.
     
  4. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Brazil had a bye today.

    Colombia is out after losing to Chile.

    Uruguay is beating Ecuador 2x0, which puts them both in 3rd place with 4 points.
    Brazil is first with 7, Chile second with 6.

    Brazil x Uruguay and Chile x Ecuador are the final group A matches, this Friday.
     
  5. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Matches are finishing as I type. Brazil and Uruguay were tied at the half, but Brazil got 3 second half goals, 2 of them after 80 minutes, to win 3x0.

    Ecuador and Chile tied, meaning they go to the final round as well.

    Group B plays tomorrow, but the top 3 are confirmed, they can only change positions at most.

    The final round will be Brazil, Chile, Ecuador, Argentina, Paraguay and Venezuela, beginning on Tuesday.
     
  6. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    First round of the final phase started today. Argentina (1st place in the other group) beat Chile (3rd place in our group) 2x0.

    Ecuador and Paraguay play later tonight.

    Brazil play Venezuela (3rd place team in the other group), starting in a few minutes.

    Line-up:
    Phillipe Gabriel, Souza, Da Mata, Vitor Nunes, Vitor Reis, Matheus Ferreira, Luiz Gustavo, Rayan, Dudu, Lorran, Kauã Elias
     
  7. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
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    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
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    Brazil
    #7 Ombak, Apr 11, 2023
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    Just a 2x1 win, but at least we started on the right foot. With the top 4 qualifying to the World Cup it's almost impossible for Brazil not to qualify now.
     
  8. Ombak

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    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
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    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
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    Brazil
    #8 Ombak, Apr 14, 2023
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2023
    Brazil had the early match today and beat Paraguay 3x2. Didn't get to follow it, but Paraguay scored first and Brazil turned it around in the first half. Second half Brazil got a red card, scored to make it 3x1 and Paraguay got a late goal to make it 3x2. I'll post highlights soon if I can.

    With 2 wins in 2 games Brazil is close to qualified already, mostly because other teams will take points from each other. They can't mathematically qualify before the next round.

    Highlights (while they last):
     
  9. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
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    Brazil
    Ecuador and Argentina both won their matches today, so right now the table has 3 teams with 6 points (ECU, ARG, BRA) and the other 3 have 0. The 3 teams at the top right now would need a disaster to miss out on the World Cup as the top 4 qualify.

    Brazil's next match is Monday against hosts Ecuador. Thursday we play against Chile and Sunday April 23 against Argentina.
     
  10. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
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    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
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    Brazil
    Equador got a 2x0 lead but Brazil tied with a late 1st half goal and an early 2nd half goal. In the end it was 2x2. Brazil and Ecuador have 7 points in 3 matches. So does Argentina, who tied Paraguay. I believe all 3 are qualified to the U17 World Cup now, and the other teams will fight for the last spot and a playoff chance.

    Next match is Brazil x Chile on Thursday.
     
  11. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    With Venezuela beating Paraguay earlier today, all 4 automatic spots to the World Cup are decided.

    Brazil are winning 3x0 right now over Chile, which puts us in first place, pending the Argentina x Ecuador match. Venezuela are now in 4th and cannot be caught.

    Brazil and Argentina will play on Sunday, and Ecuador will face Venezuela. Any one of the top 3 can win the tournament.
     
  12. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Ecuador beat Argentina. That means that:

    Ecuador is first with a +6 GD
    Brazil is second with +5

    Both teams are tied on 10 points going in to the final round.

    Ecuador plays Venezuela, Brazil plays Argentina (who has 7 points).

    The only way Argentina can still win is if Ecuador loses and Argentina beats Brazil by 4 goals.
    Brazil can win if Ecuador lose and Brazil draw or win.
    Ecuador have the advantage if both teams draw or if both teams win by the same difference.
     
  13. Ombak

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    Apr 19, 1999
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    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
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  14. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    As I was typing the post above, the U17 match vs Argentina was wrapping up. Brazil won 3x2, which means they are currently in first, but Ecuador haven't played yet. Any win by Ecuador and they will take first place on goal difference.

    Brazil 3x2 Argentina

    First Brazil goal was scored by Riquelme... there are several Riquelme's in youth teams in Brazil right now. Popular name. Weird to see it in the scoreline for Brazil, even more so against Argentina.
     
  15. Ombak

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    Apr 19, 1999
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  16. celito

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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Completely missed this tournament and thread. Sorry @Ombak you were here talking to your self. Thanks for posting as always.
     
  17. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I'll probably just pin the U17 WC thread. I just didn't want to overcrowd that area.

    U17 WC isn't until November though!
     
  18. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    U17 World Cup has been moved to Indonesia.

    I guess since Israel did not qualify, it won't be an issue, so moving the U20 away from Indonesia, they can appease them by giving them the U17 instead.
     
  19. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Updating this thread for the World Cup. The draw was today and brazil got an interesting group:

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    Indonesia are hosting. After losing the U20 WC they were awarded the U17 that Peru was unable to host.

    Brazil got group C. Matches are (times TBD):

    Brazil x Iran, Nov 11
    Brazil x New Caledonia, Nov 14
    Brazil x England, Nov 17
     
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  20. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Also today: the U17 team was called up for 4 friendlies against Canada and the USA (2 each) in late September and early October).

    https://www.cbf.com.br/selecao-bras...e-convocada-para-amistosos-contra-estados-un?

    GOLEIROS
    Matheus Corrêa - Corinthians
    Pedro Cobra - Atlético Mineiro
    Phillipe Gabriel - Vasco
    LATERAIS-DIREITOS
    Pedro Lima - Sport
    Vitor Gabriel - Atlético Mineiro
    LATERAIS-ESQUERDOS
    Marques Rickelme - São Paulo
    Souza - Santos
    ZAGUEIROS
    Arthur Dias - Athletico Paranaense
    Da Mata - Grêmio
    Dayvisson - Athletico Paranaense
    João Souza - Flamengo
    Vitor Reis - Palmeiras
    MEIO-CAMPISTAS
    Camilo - Grêmio
    Coutinho - Palmeiras
    Dudu - Athletico Paranaense
    Figueiredo - Palmeiras
    Luiz Gustavo - Corinthians
    Mateus Iseppe - Atlético Mineiro
    ATACANTES
    Estevão - Palmeiras
    Kauã Elias - Fluminense
    Lorran - Flamengo
    Rayan - Vasco
    Riquelme - Palmeiras
    William - São Paulo
     
  21. Century's Best

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    At least on paper, this group is more difficult than it seems. Iran won its group at the 2017 U17 World Cup and England beat Brazil 3-1 in the semifinals of that same tournament - which England won.

    Since the late 2010s, England has seen improvement at its youth divisions. It won the 2017 U17 and U20 World Cups. The pandemic brought a halt to youth tournaments, with the U20 World Cup returning this year.

    Let's hope Brazil can defend the title it won in 2019.
     
  22. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I'll be sticking this thread to the top in November, closer to the tournament itself.

    Today, the U-17 team was named for the World Cup:

    https://www.cbf.com.br/selecao-bras...leira-sub-17-e-convocada-para-a-copa-do-mundo

    GOLEIROS
    Matheus Corrêa - Corinthians
    Pedro Cobra - Palmeiras
    Phillipe Gabriel - Vasco
    ZAGUEIROS
    Da Mata - Grêmio
    João Souza - Flamengo
    Vitor Reis - Palmeiras
    LATERAIS
    João Henrique (Esquerdinha) - Fluminense
    Pedro Lima - Sport
    Souza - Santos
    Vitor Gabriel - Atlético Mineiro
    MEIO-CAMPISTAS
    Camilo - Grêmio
    Dudu - Athletico Paranaense
    Figueiredo - Palmeiras
    Lorran - Flamengo
    Luiz Gustavo - Corinthians
    ATACANTES
    Estevão - Palmeiras
    Kauã Elias - Fluminense
    Luighi - Palmeiras
    Pedrinho - Corinthians
    Rayan - Vasco
    Riquelme - Palmeiras

    Some of the stand out names here are Kauã Elias, Riquelme (I hate the name, poor kid :unsure:), Lorran, Pedrinho.
     
  23. Ombak

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    Apr 19, 1999
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    Brazil
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  24. celito

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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  25. celito

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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    #25 celito, Nov 11, 2023
    Last edited: Nov 11, 2023
    Starting Lineup

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