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  1. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
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    Real Madrid
    Cama is slightly better with ball at his feet, Tchou is slightly better passer IMHO. That through ball to Mbapay was dope!
     
  2. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
    The leave by the CF was world class for that goal.
     
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  3. Anon.

    Anon. Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Carlo's done him a mis-service in recent matches, but I like this kid's attitude and desire to play. He's going to be a winner, no two ways about it.

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  4. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
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    Real Madrid
    In what way? since the world cup he has not been at his best, so he's had to rotate, he's got the quality to be consistent but he hasn't been , he will get there but we shouldn't play him just because, others aren't allowed this treatment, his time will come when he get's it all together, even in his own comments he knows what is required.
     
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  5. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Have to disagree here. "He has not been at his best, so he's had to rotate." Since the World Cup, he has been given 2 starts in La Liga, none in the Champions League, and 2 in the Club World Cup.

    Meanwhile Kroos has been given 17 starts. Modric has been given 16 starts. Fede has been given 20 starts. Have any of these guys been at their best? Have they had to rotate for not being at their best?

    "Others aren't allowed this treament." Actually, I think they are. I believe the starting opportunities says as much. These guys have been playing nonstop despite being in piss poor form.

    Granted, he did go through some niggling injuries, but I don't think he's been given a fair opportunity to contribute when he has been available. However, I'm not worried. I expect and hope he will be given more of a load right now, because the others really don't deserve it.
     
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  6. Shay Z

    Shay Z Moderator
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    Jan 3, 2007
    Not speaking about Tchou's case specifically, but there's a trend going to back to Zidane's second stint of playing younger players and new signings a lot in the first few months of the season and then its all about the old guard after that. Carlo is the same. All about trusting the guys who won you everything.
     
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  7. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    All of this.
     
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  8. Anon.

    Anon. Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Strongly disagree. Tchou's not played in matches where clearly he would've been the better option to start. In particularly, he could've played in the deep lying position as the DMC, providing the legs for Modric to push up further in attack and contribute to our impotent attack. Kroos was also overplayed, to the point it became clear that he was exhausted and could no longer provide any two way presence.

    It's not as if the other midfield options, other than Cama, who was often at LB anyway, have been any good either. And Fede has been on a free-pass for a long time now.
     
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  9. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The part that sucks is that I love these dudes, they are classy, and they definitely can help us win titles.
    But both ZZ and Carlo just over rely on them.
     
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  10. arcane

    arcane Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    Philippines
    More like their personal relationship/ dressing room politics gets in the way whats best for the team.
     
  11. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    Fede is the biggest concern I have right now, not sure what is going on with him TBH
     
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  12. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahrain
    He's looking great for Uruguay.
     
  13. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I'm not worried about any of our young players, unless there's a surprise incoming, most have shown what the projection for their career can approximately be.
     
  14. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Agreed

    Correct, none of them have been decent on a consistent basis, all up and down, with that in mind i don't see anyone as a "better option" for any particular game, we just don't know which version of the player will show up, so Carlo went with the tried and tested.

    I've said it many times i'll say it again, he has to balance giving players opportunities with having to always win, and he makes his choices, none of us may agree but i can see why he does what he does, even before the season started the perception was that as long as we started the younger players we'll be fine, a new era, we've seen it, that has not necessarily been the case so far although with the quality they all possess i am confident that will be the case eventually.

    For me a mixture of the two is best but like everyone else i'd like to see less of Toni and Luka starting games, on another note, Toni has been more good than bad so there's no need to single him out, as noted, and i agree, no player has put their hand up this season as far as the midfield is concerned, none of them has been consistently at a high level, the closest player to that...... Camma, and he's been playing all over the park regularly.
     
  15. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
     
  16. Nir_O

    Nir_O Member+

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Mar 16, 2019
  17. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Roncero is extremely passionate about Real Madrid, but he doesn't really know much about football, he's just a loud hot take guy with a bias so blatant that he's famous for it. He's there for comic relief.
     
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  18. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    I blame his bad run of form on the shit thread title
     
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  19. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    The thread title speaks for the person that came up with it. :eek::ROFLMAO:
     
  20. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Saying you doubt Tchouameni as a sports journalist/pundit right now is really like saying nothing. So just say nothing then, because its too early to pass judgements. We know he was too expensive but under a different coach he may yet become a great player.
     
  21. arcane

    arcane Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    Philippines
    I hope City get to see the real Tchouameni and completely stuffs their attacks.
     
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  22. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    He’s looking much better as of late now that he’s getting more playing time.
     
  23. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Tchouaméni has been getting linked to transfer rumors in smaller Spanish publications lately with the same sentiment (that the club isn't convinced).

    I don't know what kind of sense that would make, anybody we'd bring in would most likely either cost a fortune and/or be similarly unproven.
     
  24. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Not really, I expect a lot more from him but he has time and the quality IMO
     
  25. Anon.

    Anon. Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Not sure which specific smaller publications you’re referring to, and their journalistic reach and credibility, but from what I’ve seen, there were the same articles being published about Camavinga, at the start of the season. For whatever that was worth.
     

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